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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Are we in agreeance that there are in fact clinical trials of fenbendazole and cancer?
    Seems like it. Wonder why my doctor is still playing dumb about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Seems like it. Wonder why my doctor is still playing dumb about it.
    There's a difference between trials and approved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    There's a difference between trials and approved.
    He hasn't even heard of the trials. He is close to retirement though. Maybe he's just not interested in anything new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    He hasn't even heard of the trials. He is close to retirement though. Maybe he's just not interested in anything new.
    Is he a cancer doctor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Is he a cancer doctor?
    Yes .. I see him every year for blood work.

    I'll show him your list of trials next year when I see him.
    Last edited by SassyLady; 11-04-2023 at 11:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    What i don't get is when the govt says the rules are it take 7 years to see if a vaccine is safe,
    but then changes the rules and makes 3 in less than a year. Why anyone would assume that that makes sense .

    Here's what I don't get:
    That when thousands, young and old, have died & fallen ill to the point that insurance company reps are talking about it as a huge anomaly.
    That anyone would ignore it.
    Or not seriously consider that the pharma corps and govt's are trying to cover their arses.
    As they've done before with things like, Cigarettes, Asbestos, Opioids, and the many million and Billion dollar lawsuits settled by big pharma for various "safe" "FDA approved" drugs over the decades.


    Here's what I don't get:
    That medicines that have been on the market for 30+ years for humans,
    with low side effects and less deaths than Tylenol,
    that won a Nobel prize for medicine,
    that's on the WHO list of "essential" meds.
    Somehow got labeled as "DANGEROUS" horse medication & SOFT BANNED by the federal gov't and media and people believed that line of crap about it without question.
    And to this day act like it's "Animal meds".



    Here's what I don't get:
    Why people don't understand that some folks want the gov't to run trials on ALL promising meds.
    Starting with those that are ALREADY on the market with a good safety record on humans.
    AND ALREADY tested on ANIMALS!
    Cheap Drugs mass produced and on the market for decades, shown safe for various animals might be good for humans too.
    What a concept.

    Here's what I don't get:
    Why some people miss the point that some folks don't want the gov't to PUSH any drugs.
    They Just want them to HONESTLY test them for safety. And let people and their Drs make their own free choices.


    Here's what I don't get:
    Why people say they like "limited gov't" & Reagan but really don't act on his words and warnings?
    "Trust but Verify"
    And
    "The 9 most terrifying words in the english language are 'I'm from the gov't and I'm here to help'"
    Government would not be involved but for irresponsible people.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Ivermectin and fenbendazole were created for humans first.

    Who knew ... cancer is just a parasite.
    So is Mankind. Nature is in perfect balance without the Man virus destroying everything he touches.

    Who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Yes .. I see him every year for blood work.

    I'll show him your list of trials next year when I see him.
    Maybe a cancer doctor who's a little more in the know would do you some good. Tell him about "my list" or not but the only claim I cared about is seemingly false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    So is Mankind. Nature is in perfect balance without the Man virus destroying everything he touches.

    Who knew?
    ahh c'mon Gunny.
    Is that what God calls us man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Government would not be involved but for irresponsible people.
    And when the Government acts irresponsibly? Criminally? Tyrannically? "makes mistakes"? tells lies?
    Do we just obey?
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    https://vigilantnews.com/post/oncolo...ving-like-this

    Young people, in their 20s, 30s, and 40s, are developing aggressive and rapidly-growing "turbo cancers."
    Dr. William Makis, an oncologist and cancer researcher who has diagnosed 20,000 cancer patients in his career, says, "I've never seen anything like this.""I've never seen stage four breast cancers presenting in women in their 20s. I've never seen stage four colon cancers presenting in men and women in their 20s [and] 30s. Leukemias that will kill you in a matter of days or even hours after diagnosis. Lymphomas that, again, kill you in a matter of months."

    The following is Dr. Makis' full statement:
    There are only a handful out of the 100,000 doctors, Canadian doctors, that didn't take the vaccine, that are still practicing medicine. So, it's something like 99.9% vaccination rate. And they were the first ones to line up for their vaccines. Well, as I started looking at the sudden deaths of Canadian doctors, I realized, yes, most of them are dying from cardiac issues, heart injuries, cardiac arrests, dying while jogging or swimming, dying in their sleep. And Dr. Peter McCullough has talked about this extensively, about the myocarditis and the damage to the heart, the scarring to the heart. And then some were dying from blood clots, pulmonary embolis, strokes.
    But then there was quite a large subset of doctors who were developing extremely aggressive cancers and cancers at an age that they shouldn't be getting. So, for example, there was a doctor who developed gastric cancer in his 30s, presented at stage four. He was dead in less than a year. Very rare brain cancers in young individuals in their 20s and 30s, medical students, and medical residents. And these cancers would always present at stage four. And they would always kill them in a matter of a few months. And it was always less than a year.
    And at first, I didn't know what the term for this was or what the phenomenon was. I just started really paying attention to it, tracking it. I then realized that this is being called “turbo cancer” by people on social media. Turbo cancer is not a medical term, but it's a term that people came up with to really describe the extremely aggressive nature of these cancers in the COVID-vaccinated. And these cancers behave completely differently, unlike anything I've seen before in my career. And I've diagnosed over 20,000 cancer patients in my career with cutting-edge PET, CT, positron emission tomography, imaging, CT, MRI, pathological correlation.
    I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen stage four breast cancers presenting in women in their 20s. I've never seen stage four colon cancers presenting in men and women in their 20s and 30s. Leukemias that will kill you in a matter of days or even hours after diagnosis. Lymphomas that, again, kill you in a matter of months.



    (BTW as far as NON-MSM sources go. I've got a question for folks. If you lived in the USSR in the 1970s would you just get your news from Pravda? even today? Sad to say the MSM at this point is just as bad. the ONLY way to get a lot of info is to use alternative sources. If you'd rather wait for Fox news, CNN or the Gov't to tell all the facts, OK no problem, they'll get around to it in 1 - 10 years... or never.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    ahh c'mon Gunny.
    Is that what God calls us man?
    Look. God gave us the Earth to use, not abuse.

    Can you think of anything modern Man resembles more than a virus on the Earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    And when the Government acts irresponsibly? Criminally? Tyrannically? "makes mistakes"? tells lies?
    Do we just obey?
    Different issue. Government governs. Self-explanatory. Who puts people capable of such in office? That too comes down to personal responsibility.

    So long as people would rather the government think for them and molly coddle them cradle to grave, yours is a losing argument. Responsible people suffer for both the abusers and those out to control them. Does any rule/law exist without both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Different issue. Government governs. Self-explanatory. Who puts people capable of such in office? That too comes down to personal responsibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    So long as people would rather the government think for them and molly coddle them cradle to grave,...
    Here's the thing, It really Seems like youre PROMOTING the idea that "the government think for them and molly coddle them cradle to grave".
    And If i question the gov't you act as if i'm in the wrong somehow.
    If I agree with something the gov't does you ask why I don't let them do everything.
    Or say I'm inconsistent.

    You wanted everyone to follow the gov't rules with covd gunny. the gov't lied to us, and we all suffered yes.
    All I'm asking is why you keep running behind me when I question the gov't for GOOD REASON.

    youre not here pointing out "irresponsible people's" actions or votes.
    Youre here making comments about my post talking about a treatments for cancer and the gov't's & Big Pharma's Slow to No movement.

    Now telling me that mine is a "losing argument"?
    What?

    I'm just trying to help point us all to some light against a horrible disease, and pointing out LIKELY big biz and gov't corruption AND/OR incompetence.
    And the Gov'ts and Big Pharm's long HISTORY OF THE SAME.

    Your argument shouldn't be with me.

    If folks want to nit-pick the details of the facts fine. OK.
    But I'm not sure why you think pointing out "irresponsible people's" actions in gov't and Big Biz is a losing move.
    Seems like that's a fight WORTH fighting to me.

    I'd really prefer your help. If you had some better strategy to move to a better place I'm open. please show the right WAY to WIN.
    In the midst of the "irresponsible people" that have been around since day 6.
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    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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