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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    umm Didn't know it was a competition.

    But I think Jesus will be the winner in the end.
    can we agree on that?

    Not a competition, it's always hate at bottom with oppressors, which hasn't been Catholics for 500 years.

    Notice blacks weren't humans; Jews drank blood of Christians; Catholics were heretics...

    Forced slaves to be "Christian." That was in this country, doesn't come close to others. Yes, Spanish were awful in the name of Christ, bit was it as much Church as country?

    No excuse for what was done, but the whole idea that props are loving reformers. BS


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Not a competition, it's always hate at bottom with oppressors, which hasn't been Catholics for 500 years.

    Notice blacks weren't humans; Jews drank blood of Christians; Catholics were heretics...

    Forced slaves to be "Christian." That was in this country, doesn't come close to others. Yes, Spanish were awful in the name of Christ, bit was it as much Church as country?

    No excuse for what was done, but the whole idea that props are loving reformers. BS
    kath, i wanted us to take the high road here but your reply is stirring up my autism that just wants to see the full picture in an honesty way.


    "Pope Francis said he was “deeply sorry” for more than a century of abuses that First Nations, Métis and Inuit children endured in Catholic-run residential schools in Canada."
    ended in the 1970's maybe


    "Nearly 500 years after papal decrees were used to rationalize Europe's colonial conquests, the Vatican repudiated those decrees on Thursday, saying the "Doctrine of Discovery" that was used to justify snuffing out Indigenous people's culture and livelihoods is not part of the Catholic faith.

    The doctrine was invoked as a legal and religious standing by Europeans who "discovered" new lands and violently seized it from people who had been living there for generations. It has been cited in different arenas for centuries, including by the U.S. Supreme Court — as early as 1823 and as recently as 2005....
    The doctrine was laid out in a series of papal "bulls," or decrees; the first one was issued in 1452. They authorized colonial powers such as Spain and Portugal to seize lands and subjugate people in Africa and the "New World," as long as people on the lands were not Christians.
    Scholars widely note three bulls: Pope Nicholas V's Dum diversas (1452) and Romanus Pontifex (1455); and Pope Alexander VI's Inter caetera (1493).
    They were in fact abrogated legally and nullified by the Vatican by the late 1530s," McCallum told NPR.

    The Vatican's nullification was too late to stop the destructive impact of colonialism, McCallum said, noting that European expansion was fueled by a "sort of missionary sense that the Western monarchies had a right to go to these new lands and to take from them their resources and if necessary to put down people, including enslaving them.""


    I can't put my fingers on it right now but there are quotes from Popes and other catholic leaders asking about the humanity of native peoples.
    Protestants weren't much better, with a few notable exceptions. catholic and protestant.


    William Wilberforce, protestant, work in english parliament his whole lifetime to end the slave trade.
    Against other so-called protestants and catholics.
    Do you note that in your study or is he a bad person too? part of the horrors of reformation?
    Last edited by revelarts; 06-16-2023 at 01:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    kath, i wanted us to take the high road here but your reply is stirring up my autism that just wants to see the full picture in an honesty way.


    "Pope Francis said he was “deeply sorry” for more than a century of abuses that First Nations, Métis and Inuit children endured in Catholic-run residential schools in Canada."
    ended in the 1970's maybe


    "Nearly 500 years after papal decrees were used to rationalize Europe's colonial conquests, the Vatican repudiated those decrees on Thursday, saying the "Doctrine of Discovery" that was used to justify snuffing out Indigenous people's culture and livelihoods is not part of the Catholic faith.

    The doctrine was invoked as a legal and religious standing by Europeans who "discovered" new lands and violently seized it from people who had been living there for generations. It has been cited in different arenas for centuries, including by the U.S. Supreme Court — as early as 1823 and as recently as 2005....
    The doctrine was laid out in a series of papal "bulls," or decrees; the first one was issued in 1452. They authorized colonial powers such as Spain and Portugal to seize lands and subjugate people in Africa and the "New World," as long as people on the lands were not Christians.
    Scholars widely note three bulls: Pope Nicholas V's Dum diversas (1452) and Romanus Pontifex (1455); and Pope Alexander VI's Inter caetera (1493).
    They were in fact abrogated legally and nullified by the Vatican by the late 1530s," McCallum told NPR.

    The Vatican's nullification was too late to stop the destructive impact of colonialism, McCallum said, noting that European expansion was fueled by a "sort of missionary sense that the Western monarchies had a right to go to these new lands and to take from them their resources and if necessary to put down people, including enslaving them.""


    I can't put my fingers on it right now but there are quotes from Popes and other catholic leaders asking about the humanity of native peoples.
    Protestants were much better, with a few notable exceptions. catholic and protestant.


    William Wilberforce, protestant, work in english parliament his whole lifetime to end the slave trade.
    Against other so-called protestants and catholics.
    Do you note that in your study or is he a bad person too? part of the horrors of reformation?
    Sorry about stirring up things for you.

    There's good and bad today, yesterday, and throughout history.

    My opinion, more hatred out of those reformers of the Reformation than any other singular event.

    The force behind near all global ambitions for last 200+ years. Seeded in hatred by nearly all racial groups today, from White Supremacists through Back Supremacists groups. Hate is common force. So too is history of protestant beliefs and justified supremacy with God. They are just better than non-prots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    First they invite hate group. Then disinvite when get complaints. Then grovel and re-invite, but not without stating that Catholics are horrible-unless they recant beliefs:

    https://news.yahoo.com/dodgers-walk-...ycsrp_catchall

    I've stated for years, that the only group that it's always OK to shit on are the Catholics. Then again, most are very liberal so there's that. I suppose reevaluating one has to say that it's more than OK to totally disrespect Catholics, but especially their faith. It is also just fine to hate on Jews for killing Jesus and being 'rich.' Add in Asians, mostly for being smart and rich, maybe they killed Jesus too?

    Welcome to a world in which you can not win, especially if you're a corporate entity.

    Support this group, you hate that group... support that group, you hate this group. You're a racist, a bigot, a misogynist, an anti-Semite, anti-Christian, transphobic, homophobic... you get the picture... they're damned if they do, they're damned if they don't.

    Somebody is going to pissed off about something because everyone is looking for something to piss them off...

    Except me.
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    Businesses should focus on their business. No comments on issues not related. Let their employees be, as long as their behavior does not negatively impact their business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Businesses should focus on their business. No comments on issues not related. Let their employees be, as long as their behavior does not negatively impact their business.
    My daughter started working a major hotel.
    been complimented as a great worker.
    The other day her boss came up to her and said out of the blue "BTW we don't discuss religion in the work place"
    At that point all my daughter says she'd done along that line was say
    "praise the Lord"
    several times when something good happens on the job.
    Here's a question for you, what do you think the manager wants her to do?
    I've advised her to ask him what he means exactly... for a start.
    I asked my daughter if there's profanity used by the employees & managers. she said, yes. fairly frequently.
    No problem with that.

    Kath, the sad thing is today there is nearly NO way to NOT to be offensive.
    40 years ago people talked about nearly everything and if someone didn't want to hear it they'd ask a person not to use this or that phrase or subject and often folks would comply out of courtesy.

    50 years ago most people had a similar view of decency and what was appropriate behavior culturally, what men and women were, homosexually was generally 'tolerated' but not celebrated.

    Real tolerance could be fostered in a venue where MOST people held to generally similar views.
    At this point the views that were considered fringe demand to have the throne. To be the standard. And theres NO room for tolerance.
    Why, partly because that kind of tolerance foundation is really found in Christian Reformation theology/cultural/political thought. (even if not universally applied)
    And that foundation is considered hatful, evil and misogynistic by the folks who promote trans-nuns and pole dancers on crosses.


    And in general Human beings don't leave their lives/personality/faith(or lack thereof) at the door of biz (or politics).
    And Biz owners have a right to promote whatever they want.
    It's part of freedom that our side believes in (at least we say we do).
    But no biz gets to assume their customers or anyone else will support their actions.
    What people as employees or biz people have to (rarely) ask is, who is really their 'god'.
    the god of Current Pop Culture Social Trend
    the god of Money
    the god of the Flesh
    the god of self
    the devil
    or
    the creator God of the Universe.
    Which one are we going to serve and how. Everyone will make different choices.
    fewer and fewer seem to happy with people who chose the latter and celebrate that.
    In this culture we can't skate along anymore thinking most folks are generally on the same page.
    Last edited by revelarts; 06-17-2023 at 09:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    First they invite hate group. Then disinvite when get complaints. Then grovel and re-invite, but not without stating that Catholics are horrible-unless they recant beliefs:

    https://news.yahoo.com/dodgers-walk-...ycsrp_catchall

    I've stated for years, that the only group that it's always OK to shit on are the Catholics. Then again, most are very liberal so there's that. I suppose reevaluating one has to say that it's more than OK to totally disrespect Catholics, but especially their faith. It is also just fine to hate on Jews for killing Jesus and being 'rich.' Add in Asians, mostly for being smart and rich, maybe they killed Jesus too?
    I don't see why you expect anything less. What does (the Catholic) church represent in today's nation and climate of intolerance, hatred and just plain stupidity?

    God. Faith. Family. Community. Redemption. A direct threat to the haters who thrive on chaos and fear and spreading it. A direct threat to government that would be God.

    Just don't look back lest ye turn into a pillar of salt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It's some Bible thumpers that are the leaders of anti-catholics. Always have been. Pretty much same ones hating on Jews and Muslims. Descendants of those who chased many out of Europe and such joys as Salem witch trials. Lovely people. Hey they like their rallies though.
    I am tolerant of all major denominations of the Christain and Jewish faiths.
    But hell no, I am not tolerant of the muslim faith, as it is practiced outside of the USA.
    It is a nazi type dictatorial, murderous entity in those nations that have it as their religion, Iran, Iraq , etc. example=( they hang homosexuals!) and ==Death sentence for adultery too.
    They also practice-- "honor killings" too.
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    Anti-Catholic Drag Queen Arrested for Allegations of Child Porn and Sexual Exploitation

    Police on Friday arrested a member of the Brew City chapter of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, an anti-Catholic drag queen group. The arrest was in connection with allegations of child pornography and sexual exploitation of a child.
    Adam Westbrook, who was working with middle school children as a theater director in Wisconsin, is now in a jail in Sauk County, according to an updated report Monday at Fox 11 News.
    While Westbrook has yet to be formally charged, records show the sheriff’s office has recommended Westbrook be charged with four counts of possession of child pornography and four counts of sexual exploitation of a child.
    Libs of TikTok posted the news of Westbrook’s arrest on X, along with a photo of him dressed in the drag nun’s garb he wears when with his fellow activist drag queens.


    https://fox11online.com/news/crime/a...l-exploitation

    https://catholicvote.org/anti-cathol...-exploitation/







    in other news
    Georgia men indicted on multiple counts of child sex crimes perpetrated against their adopted boys
    The couple allegedly engaged in sexually abusive acts against their adopted boys and tried to recruit others to participate, according to an indictment

    https://www.lawofficer.com/georgia-m...ld-sex-crimes/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/couple...e-ring-report/
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Anti-Catholic Drag Queen Arrested for Allegations of Child Porn and Sexual Exploitation
    Police on Friday arrested a member of the Brew City chapter of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, an anti-Catholic drag queen group. The arrest was in connection with allegations of child pornography and sexual exploitation of a child.
    Adam Westbrook, who was working with middle school children as a theater director in Wisconsin, is now in a jail in Sauk County, according to an updated report Monday at Fox 11 News.
    While Westbrook has yet to be formally charged, records show the sheriff’s office has recommended Westbrook be charged with four counts of possession of child pornography and four counts of sexual exploitation of a child.
    Libs of TikTok posted the news of Westbrook’s arrest on X, along with a photo of him dressed in the drag nun’s garb he wears when with his fellow activist drag queens.


    https://fox11online.com/news/crime/a...l-exploitation

    https://catholicvote.org/anti-cathol...-exploitation/







    in other news
    Georgia men indicted on multiple counts of child sex crimes perpetrated against their adopted boys
    The couple allegedly engaged in sexually abusive acts against their adopted boys and tried to recruit others to participate, according to an indictment

    https://www.lawofficer.com/georgia-m...ld-sex-crimes/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/couple...e-ring-report/
    Imagine that. A person with no morals being anti-Catholic. Wonder why he chose Catholics to hate on. There a lot of less tolerant churches than the Catholic Church.

    If he's guilty the should sentence him to life (albeit a very short one) in "Palestine".
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