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    Default Political Satire: The Old Man of the Mountain -- Spying on each other (互相监视)

    The inhabitants of a remote village used to bathe in a nearby river. To keep all the people, particularly the womenfolk, safe during bathing, the village elders enacted a law stipulated that anybody caught peeping at the opposite sex during bathing would get one stroke of the cane on his bottom by the village chief.

    Lately, an increasing number of women complained that they were being spied upon by a masked voyeur hiding among the tall grass at the river bank. Not only had the women, the men had also complained they were being spied upon during bathing.

    A group of young men decided to set a trap to catch the peeping Tom. One evening, they got a few female relatives to bathe in the river while they hid at strategic locations near the river. After a while, they saw a masked figure creeping like a rat towards the tall grass at the river bank.

    The leader of the group shouted: "Catch him! Catch him!" At once, all the other men surrounded the hiding place of the masked voyeur. The peeping Tom put up a fierce struggle but was finally overpowered by the young men.

    When they removed the mask, they were shocked to find that the voyeur was their village chief. Showing no sign of remorse and shame, the village chief shouted at them: "What's all the farce about? All people spy on each other, even on friends."

    By now, all the other villagers heard the commotion and flocked to the river bank. Among them was the village chief's brother who was often at loggerheads with him. Surprisingly, he defended the village chief this time: "Big Brother, you should stop apologizing, stop being defensive. You have done nothing wrong!"

    Turning to the crowd that had gathered around the village chief, he said: "My brother is not doing this for the fun of it. The reality is he has saved many lives not just in my family but also in your families and throughout the whole village. What happens if potential terrorists try to fool us by disguising as our people with amazingly lifelike, custom-made latex masks? When they wash their faces during bathing, they may unwittingly unmask their real identity."

    The village chief's cousin also came to his defence: "This type of action keeps our people safe. Some immigrants and tourists could be AI-powered robots sent here for espionage or terrorist activities. Moreover, our Dear Leader, the Old Man of the Mountain, has told us that 'all nations spy on each other'. In short, people and nations spy, even on friends."

    The village chief and his supporters claimed the village tradition gave him immunity from prosecution, arguing that his actions were part of his official duties to deter espionage and terrorism. The majority of villagers, however, disagreed and insisted that nobody was above the law. Hence, despite his vehement denial of any wrongdoing, he was led back to the village to be punished by himself with one stroke of the cane on his own bottom.

    The above event was related by a villager to the priest when he passed by the river, and saw a group of youths chasing and struggling with a masked man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    The inhabitants of a remote village used to bathe in a nearby river. To keep all the people, particularly the womenfolk, safe during bathing, the village elders enacted a law stipulated that anybody caught peeping at the opposite sex during bathing would get one stroke of the cane on his bottom by the village chief.

    Lately, an increasing number of women complained that they were being spied upon by a masked voyeur hiding among the tall grass at the river bank. Not only had the women, the men had also complained they were being spied upon during bathing.

    A group of young men decided to set a trap to catch the peeping Tom. One evening, they got a few female relatives to bathe in the river while they hid at strategic locations near the river. After a while, they saw a masked figure creeping like a rat towards the tall grass at the river bank.

    The leader of the group shouted: "Catch him! Catch him!" At once, all the other men surrounded the hiding place of the masked voyeur. The peeping Tom put up a fierce struggle but was finally overpowered by the young men.

    When they removed the mask, they were shocked to find that the voyeur was their village chief. Showing no sign of remorse and shame, the village chief shouted at them: "What's all the farce about? All people spy on each other, even on friends."

    By now, all the other villagers heard the commotion and flocked to the river bank. Among them was the village chief's brother who was often at loggerheads with him. Surprisingly, he defended the village chief this time: "Big Brother, you should stop apologizing, stop being defensive. You have done nothing wrong!"

    Turning to the crowd that had gathered around the village chief, he said: "My brother is not doing this for the fun of it. The reality is he has saved many lives not just in my family but also in your families and throughout the whole village. What happens if potential terrorists try to fool us by disguising as our people with amazingly lifelike, custom-made latex masks? When they wash their faces during bathing, they may unwittingly unmask their real identity."

    The village chief's cousin also came to his defence: "This type of action keeps our people safe. Some immigrants and tourists could be AI-powered robots sent here for espionage or terrorist activities. Moreover, our Dear Leader, the Old Man of the Mountain, has told us that 'all nations spy on each other'. In short, people and nations spy, even on friends."

    The village chief and his supporters claimed the village tradition gave him immunity from prosecution, arguing that his actions were part of his official duties to deter espionage and terrorism. The majority of villagers, however, disagreed and insisted that nobody was above the law. Hence, despite his vehement denial of any wrongdoing, he was led back to the village to be punished by himself with one stroke of the cane on his own bottom.

    The above event was related by a villager to the priest when he passed by the river, and saw a group of youths chasing and struggling with a masked man.
    The story is too unrealistic.
    "The majority of villagers, however, disagreed and insisted that nobody was above the law."
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    Poster's notes:

    The fictitious tale is a political satire on former US President Obama's infamous quote alleging "All nations spy on each other" in the wake of an enormous leak of US classified documents in 2013 by ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden about America's shocking global espionage activities on all Americans and all other countries including US allies:

    (a) The US spies on "the entire globe". It is photographing and listening to the entire globe.

    (b) Driven by fears of foreign terrorism and empowered by technological advances, the US had created a sophisticated network of global surveillance that was scooping up vast amounts of data from millions of emails and phone calls around the world.

    (c) The US government has been secretly amassing a “large amount” of “sensitive and intimate information” on its own citizens since at least 2001.

    (d) The US National Security Agency (NSA) had collected the telephone records of tens of millions of Americans.

    (e) The US government is buying troves of data about Americans to spy on them.

    (f) US spy agencies have been engaged in espionage on friendly countries such as Germany, France, Italy, Greece, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Turkey, Egypt, South Korea, India, Ukraine and the United Arab Emirates -- on a scale so vast that even jaded officials say they are taken aback.

    (g) The US spies on leaders of at least 35 countries, and even bugged the personal cellphone of former German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    (h) Washington had spied on three former French presidents.

    (i) The US had spied on the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian mercenary organization Wagner Group.

    (j) The US has spied on Ukraine's Zelensky.

    (k) Computers used by French delegates at the UN have reportedly been under surveillance. The US National Security Agency has monitored millions of French telephone calls, according to Le Monde.

    (l) The US National Security Agency has also monitored 60 million phone calls in Spain in a single month.

    Reference:

    https://www.deccanherald.com/world/a...h-says-2269009

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24627187
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    The story is too unrealistic.
    "The majority of villagers, however, disagreed and insisted that nobody was above the law."
    Poll Reveals: Majority of Americans Reject Trump’s Claims of Presidential Immunity
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ll/ss-AA1mWYFH

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ity-rcna134483

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68026175

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/u...als-court.html
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    Majority agree on "Claims of Presidential Immunity" on suppose J6 crimes or total immunity in general.
    Yes. that's too blatant for most. Nixon's "but if the president does it, that means it's not illegal"
    thankfully has always been a bridge too far. At least when it's put so bluntly.

    But the majority of Americans do not reject govt spying on everyone. Seems most have accepted it as "necessary" or inevitable.
    To the point of it not even being an issue politicians have to defend or say they're going stop.
    Also lying to (misleading) the public, slander.
    Search & seizures of property or persons, excessive fines, torture, (jail without trials maybe).
    Several other crimes the gov't & politicians do the majority are not against in any real way.
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-20-2024 at 04:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Majority agree on "Claims of Presidential Immunity" on suppose J6 crimes or total immunity in general.
    Yes. that's too blatant for most. Nixon's "but if the president does it, that means it's not illegal"
    thankfully has always been a bridge too far. At least when it's put so bluntly.

    But the majority of Americans do not reject govt spying on everyone. Seems most have accepted it as "necessary" or inevitable.
    To the point of it not even being an issue politicians have to defend or say they're going stop.
    Also lying to (misleading) the public, slander.
    Search & seizures of property or persons, excessive fines, torture, (jail without trials maybe).
    Several other crimes the gov't & politicians do the majority are not against in any real way.
    Following are excerpts from A.W. Geiger's June 4, 2018 article in Pew Research Center:

    (Begin excerpts)
    Americans broadly found it acceptable for the government to monitor certain people, but not U.S. citizens, according to the 2014-15 survey. About eight-in-ten adults (82%) said it was acceptable for the government to monitor communications of suspected terrorists, and equal majorities said it was acceptable to monitor communications of American leaders and foreign leaders (60% each). Yet 57% of Americans said it was unacceptable for the government to monitor the communications of U.S. citizens... (End excerpts)

    Source Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...snowden-leaks/
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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    Following are excerpts from A.W. Geiger's June 4, 2018 article in Pew Research Center:

    (Begin excerpts)
    Americans broadly found it acceptable for the government to monitor certain people, but not U.S. citizens, according to the 2014-15 survey. About eight-in-ten adults (82%) said it was acceptable for the government to monitor communications of suspected terrorists, and equal majorities said it was acceptable to monitor communications of American leaders and foreign leaders (60% each). Yet 57% of Americans said it was unacceptable for the government to monitor the communications of U.S. citizens... (End excerpts)

    Source Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...snowden-leaks/

    same survey.



    "Survey of 475 adults"
    maybe that's representative... maybe not.

    Here's another question from the same survey.




    Less than half are concerned here.

    ...

    Here's the question,
    Based on a broad list of politically issues, how high on the list to you think Government Surveillance on Citizens or Data Privacy are?
    How many people do you think will be considering it heavily when voting for candidates in the next 2-5 years?
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-21-2024 at 03:12 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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