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    Default A helicopter carrying Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi and Iranian Foreign Minister Hos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I was thinking the same.


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    He's dead.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


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    Israel getting the blame in 5...4....3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Israel getting the blame in 5...4....3...
    Have they yet? Seems he wasn't particularly popular enough to waste the trouble on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Israel getting the blame in 5...4....3...
    without any evidence
    it was the 1st thing that came to my mind, after the U.S..

    Thing is, If Netenyahu died in a helicopter accident, Iran would be 1st to come to my mind there... then Russia, then the Palestinians .. then "rouge elements" in Israel military.

    is that crazy?
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    I think it was inside job. His own people took him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Have they yet? Seems he wasn't particularly popular enough to waste the trouble on.
    Last i heard they're calling it an accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    without any evidence
    it was the 1st thing that came to my mind, after the U.S..

    Thing is, If Netenyahu died in a helicopter accident, Iran would be 1st to come to my mind there... then Russia, then the Palestinians .. then "rouge elements" in Israel military.

    is that crazy?
    Two of my friends who are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, when i told them their first words were essentially mossad and world war III.

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    Someone was arrogant enough to fly in weather that not fit for great helicopter pilots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Last i heard they're calling it an accident.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Someone was arrogant enough to fly in weather that not fit for great helicopter pilots.
    When were getting ready to go out on an exercise, I was listening to what one of the Majors had to say to the other pilots:

    There are helicopter pilots who have crashed. And there are helicopter pilots who are going to. That stuck in my head every single time I got on one of those damned things
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    without any evidence
    it was the 1st thing that came to my mind, after the U.S..

    Thing is, If Netenyahu died in a helicopter accident, Iran would be 1st to come to my mind there... then Russia, then the Palestinians .. then "rouge elements" in Israel military.

    is that crazy?
    Yes. Jumping to conclusions without the facts followed by spreading guesswork as fact usually is. Not the same as discussing "likelihoods", having identified them as guesswork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Yes. Jumping to conclusions without the facts followed by spreading guesswork as fact usually is. Not the same as discussing "likelihoods", having identified them as guesswork.
    so NOTHING came to your mind as the 1st 2nd or third likelihood Gunny?
    Get real.
    just because you don't like where my the lack of evidence leads me don't pretend you didn't have any thoughts about possibly causes.
    And were only happy to see dead Iranians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Last i heard they're calling it an accident.
    Sometimes a duck is a duck that shouldn't have been flying in fog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Sometimes a duck is a duck that shouldn't have been flying in fog.
    Yes. Sounding like kobe Bryant crash. With a touch of.. Should i say it. JFK jr.

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