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    Default Mar-A-Lago Raid: Deadly Force Authorized



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    More:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ar-a-lago-raid

    It's a conspiracy to get me to vote Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    yes, that's crazy.

    But,
    If Trump had been shot dead at Mar Largo, i'm sure it would have only been a tragic accident.
    Or at least that the agents would have had a very good reason.
    "If Trump would have just obeyed the agents orders, and gotten on the ground, it would not have needed to go that way.
    Plus I heard that Trump was taking medications so that's what REALLY killed him, not the bullets in is back & the choke hold."
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-22-2024 at 07:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    yes, that's crazy.

    But,
    If Trump had been shot dead at Mar Largo, i'm sure it would have only been a tragic accident.
    Or at least that the agents would have had a very good reason.
    "If Trump would have just obeyed the agents orders, and gotten on the ground, it would not have needed to go that way.
    Plus I heard that Trump was taking medications so that's what REALLY killed him, not the bullets in is back & the choke hold."
    I'm not so concerned about an actual assassination, but rather the further escalation of executive power grab. That IS a Constitutional Crisis, IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Having not read any of it my guess would have been because of any angry trumpers or private security... but then I've watched a lot of Blacklist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Having not read any of it my guess would have been because of any angry trumpers or private security... but then I've watched a lot of Blacklist.
    Doesn't compute. For all his flaws and his uncontrollable mouth, this was beyond the pale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    yes, that's crazy.

    But,
    If Trump had been shot dead at Mar Largo, i'm sure it would have only been a tragic accident.
    Or at least that the agents would have had a very good reason.
    "If Trump would have just obeyed the agents orders, and gotten on the ground, it would not have needed to go that way.
    Plus I heard that Trump was taking medications so that's what REALLY killed him, not the bullets in is back & the choke hold."
    Amazing that *kind * of thing hasn't happened yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Flashback: Clinton Admin FBI used a SWAT team to remove Elian Gonzalez from two women. Dems have no issue with using military-style force against We, the People. Says right there they don't care about the "optics".

    Without context, deadly force IS authorized to safeguard classified material/info, dependent on the severity of the threat to the Nation.

    Within context, sending armed FBI agents authorized to used deadly force in unmarked polo shirts is unprofessional and stupid. What exactly did they think Trump and/or his lawyers and groundskeeper were going to do? This is nothing more than blatant excessive use of force to put on a show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Doesn't compute. For all his flaws and his uncontrollable mouth, this was beyond the pale.
    I agree. However, Trump is far from blameless. His naivete when it comes to actual US government and what it can do, coupled with his thinking he was back on the block playing "let's Make a Deal" with the government over its property at his leisure surely created the opportunity for the Gestapo to swoop in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Amazing that *kind * of thing hasn't happened yet.
    They're throwing every other corrupt 3rd world kitchen sink political tactic at him.
    Attempts to imprison on a series of BS charges, removing him from the ballots in states, Mail in ballots, 24/7 Negative coverage from the gov't sponsored press (=MSM), Censorship in the media & Social media etc...

    But yeah, I suspect that *kind* of thing is still a bit too far at this point... maybe.
    I mean helicopter & plane crashes do happen every once in a while (ya know, bad weather), & former gov't officials running for office are not magically exempt.
    Even though almost every former U.S. President, Vice President, Cabinet member & Congress person dies of old age related issues, that doesn't mean accidents never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I agree. However, Trump is far from blameless. His naivete when it comes to actual US government and what it can do, coupled with his thinking he was back on the block playing "let's Make a Deal" with the government over its property at his leisure surely created the opportunity for the Gestapo to swoop in.
    True, but we're not supposed to have a gestapo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Doesn't compute. For all his flaws and his uncontrollable mouth, this was beyond the pale.
    I think this is all SOP. Stupid it wasn't removed but was he even there when the search went down? It's not like they're going to have a shootout with the Secret Service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Flashback: Clinton Admin FBI used a SWAT team to remove Elian Gonzalez from two women. Dems have no issue with using military-style force against We, the People. Says right there they don't care about the "optics".

    Without context, deadly force IS authorized to safeguard classified material/info, dependent on the severity of the threat to the Nation.

    Within context, sending armed FBI agents authorized to used deadly force in unmarked polo shirts is unprofessional and stupid. What exactly did they think Trump and/or his lawyers and groundskeeper were going to do? This is nothing more than blatant excessive use of force to put on a show.
    Political assassination attempt ....... At this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Flashback: Clinton Admin FBI used a SWAT team to remove Elian Gonzalez from two women. Dems have no issue with using military-style force against We, the People. Says right there they don't care about the "optics".

    Without context, deadly force IS authorized to safeguard classified material/info, dependent on the severity of the threat to the Nation.

    Within context, sending armed FBI agents authorized to used deadly force in unmarked polo shirts is unprofessional and stupid. What exactly did they think Trump and/or his lawyers and groundskeeper were going to do? This is nothing more than blatant excessive use of force to put on a show.
    Question. Was deadly force Authorized in the cases of Biden and pence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I think this is all SOP. Stupid it wasn't removed but was he even there when the search went down? It's not like they're going to have a shootout with the Secret Service.
    Wrong. They were given authorization to engage SS if needed.
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