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    Why ?

    That was not the criteria now was it?

    But you can find them in modern times too
    primarily because you CAN'T find them in modern times too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    The Crusades were a series of military conflicts of a religious character waged by Christians during 1095–1291, most of which were sanctioned by the Pope in the name of Christendom.[1] The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the sacred "Holy Land" from Muslim rule and were originally launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuq dynasty into Anatolia.[

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

    They warred against people because they did not like their religion!

    These Muslims were BORN in the places the Christians attacked.

    Their only "crime " was being the wrong religion.
    The Crusades were a series of military conflicts brought about in self defense against the muslims attempting to conquer the world and expand their caliphate. As the catholic church was the predominant power at that time it was logical to use the religion to inspire the believers to go forward and fight. It was more a political move than a religious one. The christians had to be as motivated as the muslims were. Taking back Jerusalem was a goal set by the church to inspire the crusaders.

    The inquisition was an attempt by the church to maintain power over its subjects. And to keep the nobility in check. It had nothing to do with the crusades.

    Armies in those days were paid by ransacking cities. When a city was conquered the soldiers got to take whatever they could carry away. It happened on both sides during the crusades. The promise of loot and the threat of going to hell if you didn't follow orders were the two main factors of both the muslim and christian armies.

    They were primitive times with ignorant people and they didn't think as we do today.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    The Crusades were a series of military conflicts of a religious character waged by Christians during 1095–1291, most of which were sanctioned by the Pope in the name of Christendom.[1] The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the sacred "Holy Land" from Muslim rule and were originally launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuq dynasty into Anatolia.[

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

    They warred against people because they did not like their religion!

    These Muslims were BORN in the places the Christians attacked.

    Their only "crime " was being the wrong religion.
    From your source, just as I had stated earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    how does that post show they did not kill people for religious purposes?
    You appear to be changing your position now right in front of us for all to see. Originally you stated: "Let me remind you christains [sic] killed people who did not agree with them.”

    Your source confirms that the Crusaders “were Christians fighting back against Muslim occupiers”, as I previously stated.

    But lets not let mere facts spoil your view of world history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    how does that post show they did not kill people for religious purposes?
    Are you THAT dense, really? I mean - next you'll ask for PROOF we didn't kill the Nazis "Just because we disagreed with their religious beliefs"

    This is how I'd explain it to my 5-year-old son:

    "A long time ago, Muslim armies invaded what are known as 'the Holy Lands' to christians and jews. The muslims started KILLING them, so they could take over the land. Okay - Way far away, in a place called England, word of the muslim armies reached the leaders of the land. To help the jews and christians defend against the muslims, the English sent troops to help!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    how does that post show they did not kill people for religious purposes?
    And for the record, please conform with the style of most posters here by including the quote of the poster that you are responding to. Although not mandatory it is considered by most to be helpful to your fellow posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Your point Manny?
    because that is when the muslims were attacking every non muslim country in the region, taking over their land and killing them...at least the last 300 years of this period...!

    Crusades, was to get their own land and power back that was taken from them by the muslims in the previous centuries, from my understanding...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    The findings have provoked speculation that the helix could be a common structure that underpins all life, organic and nonorganic.

    did you miss this part?
    Humans have a soul. Does this helix have a soul?

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    I guess I assumed by you sig that you did believe in God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    So Europe took invaded the middleast to take back her land?

    wow I have never heard that one before.
    They didn't just invade the middle east. They first had to take back all of southern europe. They didn't just march to Jerusalem. The wars of the crusades went on for over a hundred years. You really need to read a little more about history.
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    Originally Posted by 82Marine89
    From your link...

    Kind of like all those supplement on the market that may do this or could do that. There is no scientific proof of life, just some speculation.

    It's not alive, so this article just robbed me of ten minutes of my life.
    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    An international panel from the Russian Academy of Sciences, the Max Planck institute in Germany and the University of Sydney found that galactic dust could form spontaneously into helixes and double helixes and that the inorganic creations had memory and the power to reproduce themselves.

    http://tinyurl.com/2ezcl3

    "Could" is not a definite. It is nothing more than speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    So Europe took invaded the middleast to take back her land?

    wow I have never heard that one before.
    I thought truth mattered to you?

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