Court-martial of officer who refused to go to Iraq begins

[5stringJeff]

Wouldn't it be SOMETHING if this dude got PROMOTED!!???

I'd sack every Colonel on that promotion board.

[Gaffer]

I'd sack every Colonel on that promotion board.

Colonels come in two catagories. The very competent and the total asswipe. Unfortunately generals are taken from both pools.

[trobinett]

I'd sack every Colonel on that promotion board.

It ain't happening, the promotion that is!

[Gunny]

Military law or civilian law? I think if you were told by your C.O. to drop by this house and whack evryone in it you'd stand a good chance of having zero charges of misconduct brought against you if you disobeyed that one but if your C.O. told you to pick up every single piece of dogshit on base with your bare hands well you'd probably better do it.

Right and wrong.

Military personnel cannot be compelled to perform personal servitude for people who outrank them. That's not to mention issuing an order to commit murder IS an unlawful order.

On the last one, the person would have to be assigned to base maintenance, at least in the Marines, and that be part of that section's duties. The person would have to be supplied all proper gear to ensure he is not unnecessarily exposed to unsanitary conditions. In short, he'd get some rubber gloves and a pooper scooper.

[Gunny]

Thanks, did not know it was cleared up, this was my point. The libs are bashing on this, but fail to realize the law on the matter. All they do is point to the initial reason, not the prongs that must be met in order to meet this exclusion.

Thank you.

What the libs keep doing is the same thing Watada keeps doing .... they're trying to put the war itself on trial, and keep ignoring repeated attempts to point out that what he is being charged with has nothing to do with the war.

[pegwinn]

Right and wrong.

Military personnel cannot be compelled to perform personal servitude for people who outrank them. That's not to mention issuing an order to commit murder IS an unlawful order.

On the last one, the person would have to be assigned to base maintenance, at least in the Marines, and that be part of that section's duties. The person would have to be supplied all proper gear to ensure he is not unnecessarily exposed to unsanitary conditions. In short, he'd get some rubber gloves and a pooper scooper.

I always thought burning shitters was personal servitude but it avoided some real wmd...........

I forget the MOS number, but there is an enlisted aide MOS. Basically the guy is the butler for a general officer. On the cool side him, and the generals drivers get the FBI personal security training package.

[Gunny]

No they are not. Most of these types of questions rgarding the war in Iraq are pretty straight forward. Like: Do you think the US should pull out of Iraq? Do you think the president has done a good job on the war in Iraq? Nothing ambiguous about it. Pollsters like the CBS one do not poll where they want. The phone numbers are picked randomly. You're way too much of a cynic Gunny...

And what was the question posted recently? Do you think the US should continue the war in Iraq with an increasing deficit? Loaded question.

I'm a cynic? I believe in the honestly of polls like you believe in God.

[stephanie]

Wouldn't it be SOMETHING if this dude got PROMOTED!!???

I already predicted dmp...

That he will serve his time, and then become a Senator for the Democrats...

[Gaffer]

I already predicted dmp...

That he will serve his time, and then become a Senator for the Democrats...

Yeah seems he will get some benny out of this. Or he's being paid outright. Something still smells fishy about this whole thing.

[Gunny]

I always thought burning shitters was personal servitude but it avoided some real wmd...........

I forget the MOS number, but there is an enlisted aide MOS. Basically the guy is the butler for a general officer. On the cool side him, and the generals drivers get the FBI personal security training package.

I thought the Aide was an officer, and the enlisted guy was the driver?

[stephanie]

Yeah seems he will get some Benny out of this. Or he's being paid outright. Something still smells fishy about this whole thing.

As I said, his dad was a anti-Vietnam activist...Read up on him...
I myself....believe this was planned from the start...

That's why I hope he gets the max in jail time...

This is not a drafted...Vietnam war...

This is an all Volunteer military, he joined in 2003...

He's a traitor.....Thur and Thur..

But hey, maybe he can get Sean Penn on his visitors list...

[Gunny]

As I said, his dad was a anti-Vietnam activist...Read up on him...
I myself....believe this was planned from the start...

That's why I hope he gets the max in jail time...

This is not a drafted...Vietnam war...

This is an all Volunteer military, he joined in 2003 when it was pretty much known we were going into Iraq...

He's a traitor.....Thur and Thur..

But hey, maybe he can get Sean Penn on his visitors list...

If it's a plan, it's dumb one.

[manu1959]

misstrial..............

[Gaffer]

mistrial means new trial. It ain't over till the fat lady screams.

[stephanie]

If it's a plan, it's dumb one.

Not any different than Jon Carys...
Do four months active duty, get out on an injury pass, come back and testify that the WAR IS WRONG...???

Think about it??

You'll never find me saying Jon Cary is INTELLIGENT...

But....Watada, I believe, see himself as another Jon Cary...

And I'd take bets.....
That in a few yrs. Watada runs as a Democrat SENATOR....