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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Either way you look at it, libs will taxing US and not the corportations
    doesn't matter they want to punish big business.....even if they have to pay for it......

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

    ~Albert Camus

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    IMO, it's the republicans fault that nothing is being done. Not the democrats.
    this ignores the fact that if the Democrats would only try to do intelligent things, they would get lots of Republican support......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStripey1 View Post
    IMO, it's the republicans fault that nothing is being done. Not the democrats.
    Is this how you lead a country? Blame others rather than make things get done.

    See if Republicans fail to get things done, thats not surprising. We believe the strength of our party is in the people, not the politicians who tend to be stupid sometimes.

    Democrats on the other hand vote for what they call "The best and the brightest." We are continually told that Democrat voters cant handle any problems in life if Democrats in Government dont help them. Failure for Democrat "leaders" to get things done to a Democrat meants America fails to get things done.

    May I suggest you guys actually propose something that can be considered a good idea instead of trying to stall defense spending, pretend 18-25 year olds are children, and attacking private citizens for comments they dont say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Is this how you lead a country? Blame others rather than make things get done.

    See if Republicans fail to get things done, thats not surprising. We believe the strength of our party is in the people, not the politicians who tend to be stupid sometimes.

    Democrats on the other hand vote for what they call "The best and the brightest." We are continually told that Democrat voters cant handle any problems in life if Democrats in Government dont help them. Failure for Democrat "leaders" to get things done to a Democrat meants America fails to get things done.

    May I suggest you guys actually propose something that can be considered a good idea instead of trying to stall defense spending, pretend 18-25 year olds are children, and attacking private citizens for comments they dont say?

    I have yet to see an elected Dems or one of their talking heads, ever fess up they failed at something. It is always someone elses fault when they fail to deliver on what they promise to the voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    First, corporations do not pay taxes, thier customers do. All costs of doing business are figured into their prices. If you raise taxes on the company they will pass iton to you with higher prices

    If they do not do that, they will lay off workers or move to a cheaper place

    Little Adolf from Iran said he was encouraged by the 06 election - that should make you feel better. Right?

    Dems want to take back all the tax cuts so a retired couple making $40,00 will pay about $1100 in more taxes to the Feds. Is that what you libs call compassion for the seniors?
    Corporations pay tax on profits. With the dems in power they paid 50% or better in the 50's but by the late 70's the lobbiests got the rate down to around 35%. The comes RR and pays off the the corporate world with a giant reduction by ACRS and MACRS then uses other tactics to reduce their burden by shifting it to the middle class and poor by taxing earnings on savings and dividends. This is the beginning of the reduction of savings accounts by many people. Not to mention the elimination of all interest paid as a deduction except mortgage. That means people pay more tax not corporations.
    People loose and corps profit.
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    Corporations pay tax on profits. With the dems in power they paid 50% or better in the 50's but by the late 70's the lobbiests got the rate down to around 35%. The comes RR and pays off the the corporate world with a giant reduction by ACRS and MACRS then uses other tactics to reduce their burden by shifting it to the middle class and poor by taxing earnings on savings and dividends. This is the beginning of the reduction of savings accounts by many people. Not to mention the elimination of all interest paid as a deduction except mortgage. That means people pay more tax not corporations.
    People loose and corps profit.
    Once agin you fail to grasp basic economics. The cost of doing business (which includes taxes) is figured into the prcice of a cmpanies goods and services

    Look at your bills and you will see all the taxes are passed onto you - the companies income tax is figured into the price of what you buy

    So when you libs raise corporate taxes, the adsded cost is passed onto the consumer

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Once agin you fail to grasp basic economics. The cost of doing business (which includes taxes) is figured into the prcice of a cmpanies goods and services

    Look at your bills and you will see all the taxes are passed onto you - the companies income tax is figured into the price of what you buy

    So when you libs raise corporate taxes, the adsded cost is passed onto the consumer
    To do that is a violation of the tax code. Taxes are on net profit not gross. The expected tax burden may be added into the cost of a product like workers benefits are but are not as such. The value must be written as profit then taxed.
    The free market is supposed to keep cost down but when monopolies exist that doesn't occur as is the case now in America where conspiring to price fix is overlooked.
    In any event the investor makes money off the sweat of the worker. But without the worker the investor has nothing.
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    To do that is a violation of the tax code. Taxes are on net profit not gross. The expected tax burden may be added into the cost of a product like workers benefits are but are not as such. The value must be written as profit then taxed.
    The free market is supposed to keep cost down but when monopolies exist that doesn't occur as is the case now in America where conspiring to price fix is overlooked.
    In any event the investor makes money off the sweat of the worker. But without the worker the investor has nothing.
    Yes, libs think government causes prosperity and corporations causes worker oppression

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    man...you guys just keep tossing apples when you really don't want to talk about oranges.

    fact: congress has low poll numbers. not disputed by you or me

    fact: democrats are in control of congress. not disputed by you or me

    fact: in every single poll taken by hosts of different highly respected public opinion polling organizations for more than a year now, when asked to compare their views of democrats in congress versus republicans in congress, the people always give democrats much higher ratings. not disputed by me...but avoided by YOU like a vampire avoids garlic mirrors and crosses.
    Sorry to be the bearer of good news


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    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) gets positive marks from only 29 percent, while 57 percent hold negative views, according to the Harris Poll, which surveyed 1,003 U.S. adults by telephone from Oct. 5-8. Harris Poll declines to release a figure for its margin of error.

    The poll squares with other recent surveys of Bush’s low approval ratings as he approaches his final years in office, beset by voter angst about the Iraq war, a weak housing market and other concerns.

    Analyst Charlie Cook of the Cook Political Report says the poll suggests that while approval ratings for Democrats are low, Republicans are still considered the bottom feeders in Congress.

    “What this means is that Congress has low job approval ratings. Democrats are pathetic, and Republicans are even worse,” Cook said.

    Most polls show the president’s current approval ratings hovering near 30 percent.

    According to Cook, this poll showcases the very harshest edge of public opinion.

    As for Pelosi’s approval rating, Cook said that most poll respondents are probably lumping her in with their less than satisfactory views of the government in general.

    “I don’t think anywhere near that percentage has a clue who Nancy Pelosi is,” he said.

    The relatively negative view of Pelosi, the first Democratic House speaker in a dozen years, comes not only amid expected criticism from Republicans about her party’s ideology, but also from elements of the left who have been highly critical of what they deem insufficient efforts to end the Iraq war, including cutting off funding for military efforts there.

    Of course, Pelosi is not the only congressional leader lacking public support.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6309.html

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