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    Oh its my fault huh?

    You are insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Oh its my fault huh?

    You are insane
    You are a part of the problem.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    100 years ago this would have been a very good question however the changes globaly in combat make it nigh on impossible to answer other than dont get shot or buy a bigger bomb
    Last edited by mrg666; 10-08-2007 at 07:33 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
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    Where have I EVER said anything which indicated I dont support the troops?

    You are now just LYING!

    I dont support this president or this war. The troops I always support no matter what we order them to do. They dont make policy they do what the president tells them to do.

    You are young enough to go fight and you refuse to do so.....WHY?

    My son wants to join the military and is putting it off because he does not want to be forced to fight in a war he knows is harming America. If he believed in this war he would already be there. YOU REFUSE TO FIGHT!
    You support the troops, you support the war. Every person in the military has enlisted or re-enlisted since this war began. If you claim to support the troops, then you must support this war because if our troops didn't support this war, they would not have joined or they would not have re-enlisted. They knew full well that their actions would send them into combat.

    If your son doesn't want to fight, then tell him to become a park ranger. Being in the military means you must be willing to fight and if necessary, kill another person. I do not want someone next to me that didn't want to join because there was a war going on.

    Finally, if someone doesn't want to join the military, then that is their right. Last time I checked, this was a volunteer military. Being in the military is not a prerequisite for supporting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Supportive of what?
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    You tell me what supportive means. I got it from your own post.

    Quote from Truthmatters: I want those who talk the talk to walk the walk. I know several other people who backed what they said about this war with REAL support for the war.They joined up.
    So, let's try again: Which is more supportive in your mind- joining the militay, as you are haranguing Avatar to do, or protesting the war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama08 View Post
    Who said we ever "supported"???
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    Truthmatters, Post #17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    You support the troops, you support the war. Every person in the military has enlisted or re-enlisted since this war began. If you claim to support the troops, then you must support this war because if our troops didn't support this war, they would not have joined or they would not have re-enlisted. They knew full well that their actions would send them into combat.

    If your son doesn't want to fight, then tell him to become a park ranger. Being in the military means you must be willing to fight and if necessary, kill another person. I do not want someone next to me that didn't want to join because there was a war going on.

    Finally, if someone doesn't want to join the military, then that is their right. Last time I checked, this was a volunteer military. Being in the military is not a prerequisite for supporting it.
    That is simply not right, that assertion You support the troops, you support the war. The two aren't connected. What does "supporting the troops" mean anyway?

    If you claim to support the troops, then you must support this war because if our troops didn't support this war, they would not have joined or they would not have re-enlisted. They knew full well that their actions would send them into combat.

    Again, not so. A soldier (including the members of all branches of the military) doesn't choose where he or she goes, they obey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    That is simply not right, that assertion You support the troops, you support the war. The two aren't connected. What does "supporting the troops" mean anyway?
    If you don't know the meaning, how can you say they aren't connected?

    If you claim to support the troops, then you must support this war because if our troops didn't support this war, they would not have joined or they would not have re-enlisted. They knew full well that their actions would send them into combat.

    Again, not so. A soldier (including the members of all branches of the military) doesn't choose where he or she goes, they obey.
    They knew we were at war and their actions would place them in harms way. They chose to go to war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Im not asking people to die for failed policy you are.
    what is the policy?

    what are the objective measures that would indicate that it has failed?

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    That is simply not right, that assertion You support the troops, you support the war. The two aren't connected. What does "supporting the troops" mean anyway?

    If you claim to support the troops, then you must support this war because if our troops didn't support this war, they would not have joined or they would not have re-enlisted. They knew full well that their actions would send them into combat.

    Again, not so. A soldier (including the members of all branches of the military) doesn't choose where he or she goes, they obey.
    the fundmental job of the military is to fight a war ..... so you support the employee but don't think they should do the job they signed up for?

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