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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Perhaps because so few do teach any American history of note? Why do you think that the results of many tests have shown that our own children haven't a clue, in the 12th grade who the founders were, what they did, what the Constitution means?
    Well if we arent doing a good job teaching our own history, thats our own fault...but I fail to see why its bad that Chavez dosent want to imitate that failing.

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    Kathianne is the board self described teacher that admits to teaching in a private school. She spends tremendous hours trying to teach you and me and I don't know where in hell she finds the time to teach all those students whose parents are personally paying for their child's education.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    Well if we arent doing a good job teaching our own history, thats our own fault...but I fail to see why its bad that Chavez dosent want to imitate that failing.
    Chavez wants to educate and prepare his population for a post oil economy and the conservatives of this country and his can't stand the competition. Politically speaking, however, Chavez is as right wing as any of our own as he will resort to most anything to describe his political power as traditional and stifle any election that would not agree with his point of view. In the meantime, average Venezueleans reap many benefits by way of better housing, better sewage systems, better roads, better education, etc., etc., etc.

    I don't know what to make of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Kathianne is the board self described teacher that admits to teaching in a private school. She spends tremendous hours trying to teach you and me and I don't know where in hell she finds the time to teach all those students whose parents are personally paying for their child's education.
    Well many people claim they do certain things and its always possible they are simply lying. Its also possible that they do that job and just do it badly.


    Chavez wants to educate and prepare his population for a post oil economy and the conservatives of this country and his can't stand the competition. Politically speaking, however, Chavez is as right wing as any of our own as he will resort to most anything to describe his political power as traditional and stifle any election that would not agree with his point of view. In the meantime, average Venezueleans reap many benefits by way of better housing, better sewage systems, better roads, better education, etc., etc., etc.

    I don't know what to make of that.
    Yea I know Chavez isnt sopposed to support policies that actually improve life for the venezuelans or put into practice the many things he promised to do that got him elected. These are all part of things HE PROMISED the nation he would do.

    Its also odd to see people think having basic standards on education as somthing bad....we have them in all the developed world. Textbooks must be approved, cirriculum must be approved, there is subject matter that it mandatory to teach, we have nationalized testing etc.

    Even private schools in the states have a basic mandatory education they must provide and subjects they are required to teach.

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    I can't find any legitimate examples of the new curriculum, so I won't comment on that right now.

    It's interesting to note that Venezuela has one of the highest literacy rates in South America, or at least in the north. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it's in the mid 90's for both males and females over 15 -a smidge higher than Mexico,but lower than Chile of all places.

    Post-secondary education is another story. Even though it's supposed to be free, I suspect abject poverty prevents so many from going.

    I also think it's a mistake to build so many state universities given that families obviously need their children to work since it's defendant on their survival and won't make it there.

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    I can dig it, Said1. Why do most of the aspiring Medical professionals from Venesuela, particularly Doctors, go to Cuba for their education?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    Chavez threatens to take over schools

    CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez threatened on Monday to take over any private schools refusing to submit to the oversight of his socialist government, a move some Venezuelans fear will impose leftist ideology in the classroom.


    All Venezuelan schools, both public and private, must submit to state inspectors enforcing the new educational system. Those that refuse will be closed and nationalized, Chavez said.

    A new curriculum will be phased in during this school year, and new textbooks are being developed to help educate "the new citizen," added Chavez's brother and education minister Adan Chavez in their televised ceremony on the first day of classes.

    We told you so

    There have been many of us on this site warning you hugo lovers of what kind of dictator this person really is. I have posted about his censorship and now we see the slippery slope happening right before your eyes.
    Next thing you know Chavez' government education system will be discouraging children from saying Merry Christmas and influencing them to say Happy Holidays instead.
    If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!

    A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Kathianne is the board self described teacher that admits to teaching in a private school. She spends tremendous hours trying to teach you and me and I don't know where in hell she finds the time to teach all those students whose parents are personally paying for their child's education.




    Chavez wants to educate and prepare his population for a post oil economy and the conservatives of this country and his can't stand the competition. Politically speaking, however, Chavez is as right wing as any of our own as he will resort to most anything to describe his political power as traditional and stifle any election that would not agree with his point of view. In the meantime, average Venezueleans reap many benefits by way of better housing, better sewage systems, better roads, better education, etc., etc., etc.

    I don't know what to make of that.
    Just so you know Psycho, Kathianne happens to be a very dedicated teacher. She has probably overcame more to be that dedcated teacher than you could ever understand. That was a very insensative statement actually. You know, you can disagree with someone's points without always looking for a way to insult or belittle them.

    Kathianne IS a teacher at a private school for your information. I've spent a few hours or so conversing with her concerning this subject. She has excellent recall about individual children she has had in classes, details of their education and a commitment that is very genuine.

    Concerning Chavez, you know you are wrong! Venezuela is a shithole. It's citizens are genuinely unhappy and afraid. There is no middle class per say and only those with connections and money have any quality of everyday life. Your spin to compare him to the right wing in our country sort of lacks merit. Chavez is nothing more than a "dick tater" to be.

    Nice talking to you though.
    If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!

    A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!

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    You really bore me with all your talk about things you know nothing about, emmett.


    Quote Originally Posted by emmett View Post
    Just so you know Psycho, Kathianne happens to be a very dedicated teacher. She has probably overcame more to be that dedcated teacher than you could ever understand. That was a very insensative statement actually. You know, you can disagree with someone's points without always looking for a way to insult or belittle them.

    Kathianne IS a teacher at a private school for your information. I've spent a few hours or so conversing with her concerning this subject. She has excellent recall about individual children she has had in classes, details of their education and a commitment that is very genuine.

    Concerning Chavez, you know you are wrong! Venezuela is a shithole. It's citizens are genuinely unhappy and afraid. There is no middle class per say and only those with connections and money have any quality of everyday life. Your spin to compare him to the right wing in our country sort of lacks merit. Chavez is nothing more than a "dick tater" to be.

    Nice talking to you though.
    You and Ka can swap spit and other bodily fluids as long as you like and I couldn't care less. I am correct about Venezuela and you are certainly WRONG!!!!!!!!! I've been there and done that and you are simply talking shit!!!!!!!! His, Chavez, right wing side is as red as your own. You have to live with that. Dig it?

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