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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    You mean by raising taxes on the already over taxed people?
    Not necessarily. Taxation though has the advantage of spreading the cost. The wealthy can contribute to the commonality through tax and if more money is needed for government to function then they should bear the tax burden. Poorer people and the increasingly squeezed middle class, although they have to pay their share of tax, shouldn't have to take the greatest burden. The extremely wealthy can tip a few bucks in to help our their countrypeople I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Not necessarily. Taxation though has the advantage of spreading the cost. The wealthy can contribute to the commonality through tax and if more money is needed for government to function then they should bear the tax burden. Poorer people and the increasingly squeezed middle class, although they have to pay their share of tax, shouldn't have to take the greatest burden. The extremely wealthy can tip a few bucks in to help our their countrypeople I'm sure.
    Why should a small minority pay the majority of the taxes?

    Why should those who use government services the least, pay the most in taxes?

    Why should those who use government services the most, pay the least in taxes?


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Why should a small minority pay the majority of the taxes?
    No real reason, "because I said so" is as good as any. No, I'm not being difficult. It just depends on how society wants things to work. There are no natural rules involved, societies work out their taxation rules as it suits them.
    But, having said that, the issue of "fairness" comes to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule:

    Why should those who use government services the least, pay the most in taxes?
    Capacity to pay their fair share. Unless you want an excruciating difficult system of "user pays" you'll go with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule:
    Why should those who use government services the most, pay the least in taxes?
    Because it's not based on use but on need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    No real reason, "because I said so" is as good as any. No, I'm not being difficult. It just depends on how society wants things to work. There are no natural rules involved, societies work out their taxation rules as it suits them.
    But, having said that, the issue of "fairness" comes to mind.



    Capacity to pay their fair share. Unless you want an excruciating difficult system of "user pays" you'll go with it.



    Because it's not based on use but on need.
    So to sum it up - you say whatever is best for the common goood

    Is that correct?


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    So to sum it up - you say whatever is best for the common goood

    Is that correct?
    Only where the common good is decided in a transparent manner by a democratically elected government which is going to expend those monies, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Only where the common good is decided in a transparent manner by a democratically elected government which is going to expend those monies, yes.
    That idea has failed everywhere it is tried

    Capitalism is the best system on the planet - and liberalsim destroys it

    I fail to see where the $9 trillion spent on social programs in the last 40 years has made any difference


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    I love you. Keep thinking that way. As liberals progress the con's become more of an endangered species. I hope I am alive to see you on the list.

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    If everyone committed to common good in general while maintaining individual progression in particular there would be no Republican Party. Would there? And a show like "Sicko" would have never been necessary much less the enormous success it has had. Don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Thanks for the link where this can be watched for free, SJ!!!!!



    BTW, welcome to the Debate Policy Board!!!!
    Why isn't it a surprise that you would welcome of piece of fly ridden horse shit like this ignorant asshole, typical....... you leftist twats welcome felons, hopelessly stupid uneducated losers that can't even help themselves without the almighty government's handouts. Free heath care???? You get what you pay for.

    Wanna guess where that pig Moore will go for the quad bypass he will surely need soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    If everyone committed to common good in general while maintaining individual progression in particular there would be no Republican Party. Would there? And a show like "Sicko" would have never been necessary much less the enormous success it has had. Don't you think?
    It is hard to believe that someone that is as mentally challenged as you can figure out how to turn on a computer. You are the reason that an IQ test should be a prerequisite to vote along with a "paid in full" receipt from the IRS and a photo id. With those restrictions there would never be another yellow bellied democrat elected again.
    No matter where I've traveled or how great the trip was, it's always wonderful to return to my country, The United States of America......... me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    If everyone committed to common good in general while maintaining individual progression in particular there would be no Republican Party. Would there? And a show like "Sicko" would have never been necessary much less the enormous success it has had. Don't you think?
    Enormous success?

    Gross $24,416,389 (USA) (23 September 2007)

    Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/business
    Last edited by Abbey Marie; 10-09-2007 at 02:24 PM.
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    Only 24.5 million on a .5 million dollar film by September? Any producer would cream his jeans for such a success!!!!!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Enormous success?

    Gross $24,416,389 (USA) (23 September 2007)

    Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/business
    Exactly where or what do you call success, Abe?

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    Mikey Moore...When did he become an expert on Health care and insurance companies..????
    Did he even graduate from high school???

    Just like Al Bore.........when did this politician become a climatologist???

    I truly believe.......P. T. Barnum...

    One every minute....
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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    I'll do my best to schedule a 1 on 1 debate for you, staphy.


    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    Mikey Moore...When did he become an expert on Health care and insurance companies..????
    Did he even graduate from high school???

    Just like Al Bore.........when did this politician become a climatologist???

    I truly believe.......P. T. Barnum...

    One every minute....
    But I seriously doubt if Mikey (as you call him) would give one second to the inane and insane arguments from anyone as ditzy as you demonstrate repeatedly to be.

    What are your arguments other than name calling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho blues View Post
    I'll do my best to schedule a 1 on 1 debate for you, staphy.




    But I seriously doubt if Mikey (as you call him) would give one second to the inane and insane arguments from anyone as ditzy as you demonstrate repeatedly to be.

    What are your arguments other than name calling?
    Are you looking in a mirror right now....love..
    My conscious is clear on who is the name caller...How bout you????
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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