Who, in your opinion, is/was the best ever President of the United States?
Who, in your opinion, is/was the best ever President of the United States?
"Let me at least not die without a struggle, inglorious, but having done some big thing first, for men to come to know of." - Hector
Truman.
"I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll
Either Washington or Jefferson.
Liberty is the greatest measure of equality.
Economic Left/Right: 9.38, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51
Sola Scriptura | Soli Deo Gloria | Solo Christo | Sola Gratia | Sola Fide
Ronald Reagan
If you attack the Clintons publically make sure all your friends know your not planning on commiting suicide ~ McCain 2008
Happiness is Obama's picture on the back of a milk carton.
Theodore Roosevelt
Here is a president that could be liked by both conservatives and liberals.
He did so much in his life. If we had a president to day with half the balls of "Teddy Roosevelt" the rest of the world would not take us lightly....
Of course this is just my opinion, as for a president in my life time I would have to say hands down Ronny baby!!!!!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." -Dr. Randy Pausch
Death is lighter than a feather, Duty is heavier than a mountain
Bill Clinton. He brought about welfare reform, international economic reform, created the first federal surplus in decades, sucessfully defended against attacks on America by terrorists to the chagrin of his Republican interlopers, made education possible for millions, improved American healthcare provisions and expectations and made Ken Starr look like a total ass in the rightwing prosecution of the Whitewater affair. In addition, he is still considered both a truthteller and a genuine friend worldwide as opposed to the reputation of the current CIC.
Now I have to defend Psycho here. Bill Clinton accomplishede alot in his eight years
Bill did set alot of records as President.
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
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You're a liar. You dont even believe it yourself.
Hands down its George. No one is even close. The reasons are so many, least of which is he is the ONLY president to turn down the office knowing full well he was a shoe in. His integrity didnt allow him to be president again because he believed no one person should be leading the country for that long.
Last edited by LuvRPgrl; 10-10-2007 at 12:12 AM.
I'd have to say FDR:
-Rescued us from the depression
-New Deal programs saved us from a communist revolution (I've taken IB US History and yes, modern historians agree that the conditions of the depression could have very easily sparked a communist revolution)
-Fucked up Japan...helped Europe fuck up Hitler.
-Was a great communicator (fireside chats, amazing speeches) i.e. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
FDR or Teddy. I can't decide.
For Red states ;
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/shields...98/sg_8-21.html
Wall Street Journal columnist Paul Gigot and syndicated columnist Mark Shields analyze a week that included President Clinton's nationally-televised admission that he had a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky and a missile strike against terrorist bases in Afghanistan and Sudan.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200603200012
In fact, during Clinton's tenure, a number of Republicans criticized Clinton's retaliatory military attacks on Osama bin Laden's purported Afghanistan compound and reported sites of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq by repeatedly accusing the Democratic president of "Wag the Dog" tactics -- using military action to divert attention away from the Monica Lewinsky controversy.
http://www.mideastnews.com/press98summer.htm
Cruise Missle Diplomacy (this one is a stunner as the Republican diversion accusations against Clinton are used against the U.S. by the Arab World.)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp...y/20050603.html
When Clinton announced to the American public that bin Laden was a serious threat to the U.S. and he intended to strike back, the Republicans and many in the media accused him of diverting attention away from the Lewinsky scandal with a desperate Wag the Dog tactic.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronic.../symposium.html
Accusations that the Lewinsky trial was purposely being done to distract from real life situations that needed tending.
http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/clintoncrime.htm
The president's surrogates and supporters are expert in diverting attention from whatever current scandal President Clinton is embroiled in.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS....lkl/index.html
"The Clinton administration failed to bomb the [al Qaeda] camps that were in Afghanistan, that we knew were there," Clarke said. "Clinton bombed them once. The public reaction was negative to that. ... Everyone said Clinton's just bombing Afghanistan to divert attention from the Monica [Lewinsky] business, and so he didn't bomb them again.
"That was during a time when they were turning out thousands of trained terrorists. It was an assembly line."
So it turns out the repubs kept Clinton from doing anything!
A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.
I maintain Bill Clinton did more than any other President with a hostile congress and would easily be re-elected today if the law permitted it.
That's OK with me. Salute your next President now or on January 20, 2009, Hillary Rodham Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill is her closest advisor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some of you cats really kill me with your humor. Have you ever considered going to Las Vegas to advance your comedy careers?
Hey, I am listing the accomlishments of Bills eight years. Do we want more with a Hillary administration?
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
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