Why a True Christian cannot be a Modern Liberal

[Dilloduck]

For starters, from Paul:

Here:

Romans 6:6
New English Translation (NET Bible)
“We know that our old man was crucified with him so that the body of sin would no longer dominate us, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin"

And here:

Ephesians 4:22-24
New English Translation (NET Bible)
4:22 “You were taught with reference to your former life to lay aside the old man who is being corrupted in accordance with deceitful desires, 4:23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 4:24 and to put on the new man who has been created in God’s image—in righteousness and holiness that comes from truth.”

I don't see that explaining this;

Of course we fail - but the occasional failure is not a reflection of God's renewing of our mind - but the very real fact we have a renewed, forgiven spirit contained in a failing, sinful "body".

[darin]

I don't see that explaining this;

41"Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."

That's ONE example of how our renewed-in-christ spirit can be hampered by our physical, fallen, sinful mindset (our body..).

[-Cp]

Where does it say that you cannot be a Christian and a sinner at the same time?



well?

Again - please read 1st John Chapter 3 passages in the original post..

[JackDaniels]

This post is further evidence of why Christians in this country are perhaps the most evil, bigoted people in society.

Evil is almost too light a word to use for modern Christians.

[red states rule]

This post is further evidence of why Christians in this country are perhaps the most evil, bigoted people in society.

Evil is almost too light a word to use for modern Christians.

to some kooks we rank down their with smokers don't we?

[JackDaniels]

to some kooks we rank down their with smokers don't we?

Oh no, smokers are much higher than Christians

[red states rule]

Oh no, smokers are much higher than Christians

Libs blame us for putting Pres Bush in office. To them that is an unforgivable sin

[JackDaniels]

Libs blame us for putting Pres Bush in office. To them that is an unforgivable sin

How does this relate to me? YOU are a liberal compared to me.

[darin]

Jack - what the hell? I mean - do you intend to ADD to this conversation, or are you using it as a way to snipe flames against Christians. Please - if you simply want to berate Christianity and CHristians - Start a "Christians are Evil" thread...have at it.

[JackDaniels]

Jack - what the hell? I mean - do you intend to ADD to this conversation, or are you using it as a way to snipe flames against Christians. Please - if you simply want to berate Christianity and CHristians - Start a "Christians are Evil" thread...have at it.

[Dilloduck]

That's ONE example of how our renewed-in-christ spirit can be hampered by our physical, fallen, sinful mindset (our body..).

In other words True Christians still sin but it's because of the old body?

[darin]

In other words True Christians still sin but it's because of the old body?

We sin. We don't have a sinful mindset. We fail, seek redemption, and stop sinning. Until we fail the next time. We don't continue, without repenting, in our sin and expect God to just 'allow it' because we decide we're born this way, for example.

[Dilloduck]

We sin. We don't have a sinful mindset. We fail, seek redemption, and stop sinning. Until we fail the next time. We don't continue, without repenting, in our sin and expect God to just 'allow it' because we decide we're born this way, for example.

True Chistians do not have a sinful mindset ? Is that what your trying to say here?

[darin]

True Chistians do not have a sinful mindset ? Is that what your trying to say here?

To the Christian, there's no desire for sin. Christians seek God and Godliness.

[Dilloduck]

To the Christian, there's no desire for sin. Christians seek God and Godliness.

Is that by choice or because God has taken away the desire to sin. Bad mindset gone--good mindset present ?