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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    it is about God in the public square... about God in our government. I do not believe that is the place for Him....
    you clearly didn't read the story. www.hop.com
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    you clearly didn't read the story. www.hop.com


    I have to rep you for this one!!!!!!!!!

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    God in politics, Allah in politics...soon there'll be no room for politicians. I suppose then they'll all be kicked out and it will be the clergy and the mullahs making the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    God in politics, Allah in politics...soon there'll be no room for politicians. I suppose then they'll all be kicked out and it will be the clergy and the mullahs making the rules.
    You must not of read the article either. This has nothing to do with God and the government

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    you clearly didn't read the story. www.hop.com
    you clearly take the phrase "God in the public square" very literally. God in public things... God in public documents.... get it? Why does God need to be there when there are tax payers who do not believe in Him? Why do Christians who DO, need to have public subsidized memorializations to Him?

    And why don't you just stop with this silly immature gotcha game you seem to love to play with me all the time, and act your age, assuming you ARE over 14. Just lay off the negative repping and the sniping and talk issues with me and I will do the same. OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    You must not of read the article either. This has nothing to do with God and the government
    really? Are you suggesting that the certificates that accompany flags flown over the capitol are produced by some private organization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    you clearly take the phrase "God in the public square" very literally. God in public things... God in public documents.... get it? Why does God need to be there when there are tax payers who do not believe in Him? Why do Christians who DO, need to have public subsidized memorializations to Him?

    And why don't you just stop with this silly immature gotcha game you seem to love to play with me all the time, and act your age, assuming you ARE over 14. Just lay off the negative repping and the sniping and talk issues with me and I will do the same. OK?
    So how do you buy things since the word God is on our money?

    For you to whine about someone else playing the gotcha game, and sniping is a real hoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    really? Are you suggesting that the certificates that accompany flags flown over the capitol are produced by some private organization?
    The flag is raised over the Capital then lowered. The certificate is written with words requested - there is no endorsement of Religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    The flag is raised over the Capital then lowered. The certificate is written with words requested - there is no endorsement of Religion

    So.. someone could request a certificate that, let's say, expressed their solidarity with NAMBLA, that would OK with you? Or Satan? You would be just as outraged if the capitol architect denied those requests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    So.. someone could request a certificate that, let's say, expressed their solidarity with NAMBLA, that would OK with you? Or Satan? You would be just as outraged if the capitol architect denied those requests?
    So you equate God with NAMBLA and Satan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    So how do you buy things since the word God is on our money?

    For you to whine about someone else playing the gotcha game, and sniping is a real hoot
    I buy things all the time. God on money doesn't bother me. I don't see the need for it, and I can understand why non Christians or Jews might find it a bit offensive.... and I am not whining at all. I am suggesting that dmp and I raise our level of debate. I have requested similar things from you over the months, and you clearly want nothing to do with it.... because, I would guess, there is no canned talking point or one liner that specifically addresses it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    So you equate God with NAMBLA and Satan?
    no. YOU said that it was a certificate and people got to request what they wanted on it. I only asked how far you took that.

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    from my link....

    Acting Architect Stephen T Ayers said in a statement that the policy of disallowing political and religious statements on flag certificates has been inconsistently applied and does not fulfill the objectives of the office.

    "It is inappropriate and beyond the scope of this agency’s responsibilities to censor messages from members," Ayers said.


    So much for censoring God

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    from my link....

    Acting Architect Stephen T Ayers said in a statement that the policy of disallowing political and religious statements on flag certificates has been inconsistently applied and does not fulfill the objectives of the office.

    "It is inappropriate and beyond the scope of this agency’s responsibilities to censor messages from members," Ayers said.


    So much for censoring God
    So...you WOULD be OK if someone wanted to request adulation to Satan on a certificate accompanying the flag?

    Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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    mfm quote removed......

    it would appear this is now a non issue....

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071011/...flag_dispute_3
    Last edited by manu1959; 10-11-2007 at 08:04 PM.

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