Eating Less Meat May Slow Climate Change

[SpidermanTUba]

Since I haven't eaten beef, pork veal, or lamb for 17 years, can I get some carbon credits?

Carbon credits are a useless nothing bought by the rich to make them feel better. This way they don't have to support radical environmental reform and put their oil company assets at risk.

[Abbey Marie]

Carbon credits are a useless nothing bought by the rich to make them feel better. This way they don't have to support radical environmental reform and put their oil company assets at risk.

[SpidermanTUba]

And unfortunately, the only people that can fix it - the voters - have been brainwashed by Exxon fronts into believing their isn't a consensus on global warming.

[Trigg]

Based on what evidence?

You want evidence that there used to be an huge buffalo herd????????????

As for my other statement, it's an oppinion. Based on the fact that the world has gone through climate changes in the past. I don't usually site wikipedia as a source but it's an easy one and I have to leave in a minute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

[SpidermanTUba]

You want evidence that there used to be an huge buffalo herd????????????

No, I want evidence that neither cow nor buffalo cause global warming.

As for my other statement, it's an oppinion. Based on the fact that the world has gone through climate changes in the past. I don't usually site wikipedia as a source but it's an easy one and I have to leave in a minute.

How does the fact that the earth has undergone climate change in the past lead you to conclude that the methane that cows and buffalo produce does not trap infrared radiation?

[Trigg]

No, I want evidence that neither cow nor buffalo cause global warming.



How does the fact that the earth has undergone climate change in the past lead you to conclude that the methane that cows and buffalo produce does not trap infrared radiation?

Did I say that, let me check.....................nope. Just as I thought that isn't what I said.

I said I doubt they have anything to do with global warming. Do they produce methane yep, no argument. Getting rid of cows ignores the fact that other animals used to be more numerous (Buffalo) and no one was blaiming them for global warming. Blaiming humans because we eat meat is just assinine.

I happen to think that because the earth has gone through periods of extreme heat/cold/drought before that it will again. Do we contribute to the changes maybe we do, but I don't believe it is significant.

[mrg666]

You want evidence that there used to be an huge buffalo herd????????????

As for my other statement, it's an oppinion. Based on the fact that the world has gone through climate changes in the past. I don't usually site wikipedia as a source but it's an easy one and I have to leave in a minute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

yes certain studies show that weather conditions as drastic as we are seeing go back a long way ( wiil that be any comfort when the shit hits ? )but statisticly we are throwing out enourmous amounts of emmisions id rather lean on the safe side our generation probably wont feel the biggest brunt of it but our kids and grand kids will be left a nice legacy from us

[SpidermanTUba]

Did I say that, let me check.....................nope. Just as I thought that isn't what I said.

I said I doubt they have anything to do with global warming. Do they produce methane yep, no argument. Getting rid of cows ignores the fact that other animals used to be more numerous (Buffalo) and no one was blaiming them for global warming. Blaiming humans because we eat meat is just assinine.

What you are saying is only true for America. There are 1.3 billion head of cattle in the world, only 100 million in America, and there were 60-100 million head of buffalo before we slaughtered them all. I'm still not seeing how this proves that methane from a cow or buffalo's anus doesn't contribute to global warming.

I happen to think that because the earth has gone through periods of extreme heat/cold/drought before that it will again. [/QUPTE]

And no one would disagree with you on that point, so why do you keep bringing it up?

[QUOTE}Do we contribute to the changes maybe we do, but I don't believe it is significant.

Based on what evidence? What journal, volume, and page number? If not that, then what expertise do you have that qualifies you to comment without reference to any papers?