Question for War Supporters

[SassyLady]

Whose damn freedom?

And who's standing in the way of it?

If the Shiite population wants an Islamic government in Iraq, well, U.S. soldiers sure as FUCK aren't "provingd a forum" for their freedom. If the Sunnis want Saddam back, same thing. The Kurds, maybe? Some seem to be defining "freedom" or "democracy" for Iraq in a way that just doesn't make a lick of sense. They imagine this amorophous "Iraqi people" that just doesn't exist. "Iraq" isn't even a real nation... it was drawn up by the British and ropes in wildly differing ethnic and tribal groups usually at odds with each other. Saddam kept it together by terrorizing Kurds and Shiites, best I can tell.

The truth is that the military mission was never to create a stable Iraq with a different leader. It was to create chaos for a nation that threatened Israel, and possibly set off a conflagration of the middle east that would see the U.S. destroying most of it so that Israel wouldn't have to launch one of its nukes... or could at least launch one with good reason, maybe at Iran.

None of which has anything to do with America's interests.

http://www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html

My statement was about the primary function of the military which you tried to say was to KILL. I pointed out to you that soldiers are trained to kill when NEEDED as opposed to your theory that their primary function is to kill.

Their primary function is to protect the interests of their country....both domestically and nationally, and at times this necessitates killing.

And I can tell from your post that you must hate Israel.

As for what our soldiers are doing in Iraq --- Shite, Kurd, Sunni and others should be given a chance to decide, by vote and not by dicatorship, what type of freedoms they want.

American interests - do you really think we have no interests in the ME?

[Abbey Marie]

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And I can tell from your post that you must hate Israel.
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IMO, that is the crux of it.

[Gaffer]

Victory is the defeat of the democrats and the media.

[LiberalNation]

Victory is the defeat of the democrats and the media.

Yes, down with free press. only right wingers have a right to free speech/press in this country. And you all claim the terrorists want to take away our freedom.

[Gaffer]

Yes, down with free press. only right wingers have a right to free speech/press in this country. And you all claim the terrorists want to take away our freedom.

I just want the media to do their job. Unbiased reporting on the facts of a story not the usual liberal slant they have been doing for the last 40 years.

That wasn't a quote, that was MY answer to the question of this thread. If the media would report without bias and the democrats would pull together with the administration everything else would take care of itself and the iraq problem would be solved quickly.

[LiberalNation]

I just want the media to do their job. Unbiased reporting on the facts of a story not the usual liberal slant they have been doing for the last 40 years.

The medias job is to make money, they are a business. There are plenty of conservative leaning outlets. Fox new, newsmax, tons of talk radio shows.

[Dilloduck]

The medias job is to make money, they are a business. There are plenty of conservative leaning outlets. Fox new, newsmax, tons of talk radio shows.

You're so right----People need to learn not to expect to get the truth there and what used to be called "News" is pure propaganda.

[Gaffer]

The medias job is to make money, they are a business. There are plenty of conservative leaning outlets. Fox new, newsmax, tons of talk radio shows.

The job of the media is to report the news. ALL the news and not selected parts of the news and editorialized news. Or, as in a number of cases lately, making up the news. I don't want a liberal or conservative slant, I want just the news. I will determine myself what I think about it.

They make just as much money reporting the news as they do making shit up. The made up shit belongs on sitcoms not the news. Opinions belong on news analysis shows and editorial pages.

[Birdzeye]

Yes, down with free press. only right wingers have a right to free speech/press in this country. And you all claim the terrorists want to take away our freedom.

The neocons here who show such an irrational hatred for anyone to the left of Attila the Hun have no true respect for freedom. They would stifle the freedom of those who are conservatively incorrect.

[Dilloduck]

The neocons here who show such an irrational hatred for anyone to the left of Attila the Hun have no true respect for freedom. They would stifle the freedom of those who are conservatively incorrect.

Actually I'd settle for you taking responsibilty for what you say.

[Birdzeye]

Actually I'd settle for you taking responsibilty for what you say.

At least I don't go around calling another poster "Birdshit" and hurling other mindless personal attacks like one of our MODERATORS does.

[darin]

Victory is the defeat of the democrats and the media.

HOOAH

[Hugh Lincoln]

And I can tell from your post that you must hate Israel.

America's interests should come before Israel's.

If you don't agree, then we really have nothing to discuss.

[Gunny]

America's interests should come before Israel's.

If you don't agree, then we really have nothing to discuss.

And if the US's and Israel's interests are the same, then there should be no problem with supporting Israel without having to listen to the Jewish conspiracy theory bullshit from racists.

[Hugh Lincoln]

And if the US's and Israel's interests are the same, then there should be no problem with supporting Israel without having to listen to the Jewish conspiracy theory bullshit from racists.

How in God's name do they have "the same interests"?