View Poll Results: Do you think we should stay in Iraq/open ended commitment, or get out troops out?

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  • Yes, our job there is done, we should begin pulling out.

    14 41.18%
  • No, our job there isn't done, we should stay, indefinitely.

    16 47.06%
  • Not sure

    3 8.82%
  • Don't care

    1 2.94%
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Kath, let me ask you this; the surge troops are scheduled to come home in April and there won't be others replacing them, what happens then?
    Time will tell, no? What are you all going to do if the Iraqis deal with the problems?

    If they don't, I can easily say, 'we tried.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Time will tell, no? What are you all going to do if the Iraqis deal with the problems?

    If they don't, I can easily say, 'we tried.'
    I'm going to say I was wrong but there is no way to find out if we stay there. I just do not want the troops there indefinitely, I took Bush at his word in the 2000 campaign about nation building and wanting no part of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    I'm going to say I was wrong but there is no way to find out if we stay there. I just do not want the troops there indefinitely, I took Bush at his word in the 2000 campaign about nation building and wanting no part of that.
    So did I then, then 9/11 happened, all bets were off. I doubt anyone was as surprised as GW, he shouldn't have been, but I'll bet he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    So did I then, then 9/11 happened, all bets were off. I doubt anyone was as surprised as GW, he shouldn't have been, but I'll bet he was.
    Well yeah 9/11 happened and as you know I am a firm supporter of the initial thrust into Iraq but i'm not a supporter of the strategy used since and what seems to be the waffling going on on all sides(Iraqi government, U.S. etc. etc.), now if the stinky Turks get more involved fugghedaboutit, its over.
    Last edited by OCA; 12-31-2007 at 05:48 PM.

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    I hope our troops slowly consolidate to a few big ass bases in Iraq to be prepared for the next acts of insanity that arise in the that area of the world.

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    You guys sure seem to know a lot about military strategy. I voted "Not sure".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    You guys sure seem to know a lot about military strategy. I voted "Not sure".
    My dear I don't either but I know for sure that the one currently being used, the one where we send out 20 guy patrols to get picked off because we are afraid of civilian casualties isn't working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    I hope our troops slowly consolidate to a few big ass bases in Iraq to be prepared for the next acts of insanity that arise in the that area of the world.
    Ah but then we'd have been for it, before being against it.

    Has anyone spoken about the flypaper strategy lately? That worked out, ya know. Costs were high, but not as high as feared. Then again, in hindsite, it was supposed to be cost free.

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    A few big bases, that means indefinitely. Do you think the Iraqis will allow it in the long term, infidels on muslim soil. We'd be in the same boat as Israel, constant war with no end in sight ever.

    Anybody wana respond to my other post?

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    israel is at constant war because the muslim god forbid has a country that isnt 95% plus muslim, while israel is 20% muslim IN israel.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    A few big bases, that means indefinitely. Do you think the Iraqis will allow it in the long term, infidels on muslim soil. We'd be in the same boat as Israel, constant war with no end in sight ever.

    Anybody wana respond to my other post?

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    The initial response to 911 is long since over. Just ask Bin Laden.

    We went into Iraq because of oil, and that's why we're still there. The whole bush family is big oil, and they didn't want to let down their oil rich friends.

    We're nation building in Iraq right now, We're nation building and playing police man. That is NOT our counties function. We deposed Saddam, the country is stable, we should get the hell out. If the nation erupts into a killing field the second we're gone, then I have to agree with OCA, it doesn't matter then if we'd have pulled out immediately or ten years from now. If it's going to happen it's going to happen. We need to get out of there, now. Too many lives and too much money have gone into that shit hole for BUSH and BIG OIL! Invading Iraq had little to NOTHING to do with the security of America, or 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    The initial response to 911 is long since over. Just ask Bin Laden.

    We went into Iraq because of oil, and that's why we're still there. The whole bush family is big oil, and they didn't want to let down their oil rich friends.

    We're nation building in Iraq right now, We're nation building and playing police man. That is NOT our counties function. We deposed Saddam, the country is stable, we should get the hell out. If the nation erupts into a killing field the second we're gone, then I have to agree with OCA, it doesn't matter then if we'd have pulled out immediately or ten years from now. If it's going to happen it's going to happen. We need to get out of there, now. Too many lives and too much money have gone into that shit hole for BUSH and BIG OIL! Invading Iraq had little to NOTHING to do with the security of America, or 911.
    Now it's about oil. Funny thing, that didn't work in the first place, with the price increase and all. If it were for the oil, damn we need to do a better job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Ah but then we'd have been for it, before being against it.

    Has anyone spoken about the flypaper strategy lately? That worked out, ya know. Costs were high, but not as high as feared. Then again, in hindsite, it was supposed to be cost free.
    Then again that's all in the past and for historians and politicos to argue about. We need to do the right thing as the situation presents itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Then again that's all in the past and for historians and politicos to argue about. We need to do the right thing as the situation presents itself.
    Which is what in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Time will tell, no? What are you all going to do if the Iraqis deal with the problems?

    If they don't, I can easily say, 'we tried.'
    Whether they do or don't, we did what we came to do. Whether Iraq becomes a thriving democracy means little to me.

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