True to our Native Land

[retiredman]

Right. Women and blacks should be exempted! Power to women and Blacks!

women and blacks should have economic equity. Or do you think it is perfectly OK that across our country a gender pay equity gap exists? Or a racial pay equity gap exists?

[Kathianne]

women and blacks should have economic equity. Or do you think it is perfectly OK that across our country a gender pay equity gap exists? Or a racial pay equity gap exists?

Please remember the qualifiers for each. Women in upper echelon's tend to take off time for kids, sometimes jettisoning their careers in favor of 'family.' There may be more at work than prejudice.

[retiredman]

Please remember the qualifiers for each. Women in upper echelon's tend to take off time for kids, sometimes jettisoning their careers in favor of 'family.' There may be more at work than prejudice.

they may be more than JUST prejudice...but there is clearly gender inequity in the workplace...at all echelons.

Just like there is equity in economic equity and opportunity for blacks in America.... to suggest that the passage of the Civil Rights Act waved a magic wand over the land and all prejudices and racial favoritism in the workplace just magically disappeared is inaccurate.

[Kathianne]

they may be more than JUST prejudice...but there is clearly gender inequity in the workplace...at all echelons.

Just like there is equity in economic equity and opportunity for blacks in America.... to suggest that the passage of the Civil Rights Act waved a magic wand over the land and all prejudices and racial favoritism in the workplace just magically disappeared is inaccurate.

Link!

[Yurt]

that is stupid. we should have a society where blacks and women have equal economic opportunity.

and if rich white guys are earning more in their jobs while blacks and women toil in similar jobs for less money, they OUGHT to be taxed!

i guess running for president and being a senator doesn't count

[retiredman]

Link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_P...ed_Comparisons

[retiredman]

i guess running for president and being a senator doesn't count

gosh, I guess because Shaquille ONeal is seven feet tall, that must mean that ALL black folks have the ability to be seven feet tall.

[Kathianne]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_P...ed_Comparisons

2002? and wikki? Wow, underimpressed.

[Yurt]

gosh, I guess because Shaquille ONeal is seven feet tall, that must mean that ALL black folks have the ability to be seven feet tall.

huh? you're losing it, give up your argument now. you said "all facets". i proved you wrong because he makes the same money as other equally ranked senators. you are wrong and your desperation is showing.

[retiredman]

2002? and wikki? Wow, underimpressed.

so the data from bls is unimpressive?

or are you suggesting that gender pay inequity has magically disappeared in those halycon days of the booming Bush economy?

[Kathianne]

so the data from bls is unimpressive?

or are you suggesting that gender pay inequity has magically disappeared in those halycon days of the booming Bush economy?

And that is why I say you are dishonest. I'm no RSR, Glock, Martin, or any right wing person. I'm me, I've said plenty against GW economically and foreign policy wise. Try again, you are not going to smear me with this type of thing.

[retiredman]

huh? you're losing it, give up your argument now. you said "all facets". i proved you wrong because he makes the same money as other equally ranked senators. you are wrong and your desperation is showing.

hardly. are you suggesting that because there are some black men who make the same money for the same jobs in America, that therefore economic inequity is a myth?

[retiredman]

And that is why I say you are dishonest. I'm no RSR, Glock, Martin, or any right wing person. I'm me, I've said plenty against GW economically and foreign policy wise. Try again, you are not going to smear me with this type of thing.

what about bls data compiled in wiki is underimpressive?

and since the data on the website is from 2002, are you, underimpressed, therefore, because things have changed dramatically in the ensuing six years?

which is basically what I was asking in the sentence you bolded, btw.

[Kathianne]

what about bls data compiled in wiki is underimpressive?

and since the data on the website is from 2002, are you, underimpressed, therefore, because things have changed dramatically in the ensuing six years?

which is basically what I was asking in the sentence you bolded, btw.

Here's the thing, you are unwilling to speak to improvements, if doing so will help the other party. That's you, I'm me. Not going to help you villify the attempts over time, which like homelessness, you will give all credit to your party, if they win. On the other hand if they don't, homelessness and discrimination will remain.

That is intellectually dishonest.

[Yurt]

hardly. are you suggesting that because there are some black men who make the same money for the same jobs in America, that therefore economic inequity is a myth?

are you suggesting that there aren't white males who make less than blacks male or female? your very premise is flawed. the world is inequal, short people supposedly make less, fat people, ugly people.... are you suggesting that those people are a "protected class?"