why is it so hard to fathom that the democratic party is not this pure

[retiredman]

Right. In any case, I don't know why I ever thought you were worth an intellectually honest debate. That has not been easy to write, it dates back to waterboarding and other topics. I thought you were honest, but it seems most were right.

I believe in social welfare programs. I think they are good public policy. I do not consider them to be bribing recipients for votes. How is that not honest?

[nevadamedic]

snow white party

fdr interned 100,000 japanese, so you think the party was above the allegation of being racist until the 1960's?

I already made a post about it.

Ain't nothing like one big bbq, we need to have one in the Middle East next.

[82Marine89]

I believe in social welfare programs. I think they are good public policy. I do not consider them to be bribing recipients for votes. How is that not honest?

Then you are willing to give your fair share to pay for them?

[retiredman]

Then you are willing to give your fair share to pay for them?

I pay every penny of income tax I owe. how about you?

[82Marine89]

I pay every penny of income tax I owe. how about you?

I pay more than I care to, but would you mind having to pay more to subsidize these programs?

[retiredman]

I pay more than I care to, but would you mind having to pay more to subsidize these programs?

no..as long as those who were more fortunate than me pay even more...and those who were less fortunate not have their taxes increased as much as mine

I am all for a progressive tax policy.

[actsnoblemartin]

the question is, who deserves to be on them, dont you think their is a subtle, you need the government attitude behind some of it, obviously some people honestly need government help

But the government should not turn people into dependanets

Where am i wrong, im listening

I believe in social welfare programs. I think they are good public policy. I do not consider them to be bribing recipients for votes. How is that not honest?

[actsnoblemartin]

ok im lost, let me get you to clarify your statement

Ain't nothing like one big bbq,

ME: What does that mean?

we need to have one in the Middle East next.

ME: meaning what?

[retiredman]

ok im lost, let me get you to clarify your statement

he wants to incinerate the entire middle east.

a real rational sort of fellow.

[retiredman]

the question is, who deserves to be on them, dont you think their is a subtle, you need the government attitude behind some of it, obviously some people honestly need government help

But the government should not turn people into dependanets

Where am i wrong, im listening

I have never advocated the government turning people into dependents.

[actsnoblemartin]

I am not saying you did, but i believe their is a percentage of democrats in general, and % of democrats in the democratic party who believe the government should take care of everyone, and were too stupid to do anything for ourselves.

I feel the democratic party has a wiff of arrogance, elitism and racism, because, if youre not a democrat, your an uncle tom,

and some of them think blacks and other minorities are inferior and too stupid with their own money and lives. So they need the government to take care of them, I mean my god, do we need the government to wipe our ass for us too

Now, that ive probably pissed you, please take a deep breath, and calmly if possible tell me why and where im wrong

You will always be a patriot even if we agreed on nothing



just wanted you to know that

I have never advocated the government turning people into dependents.

[actsnoblemartin]

It didnt sound rational to me, but i dont wanna put words in his mouth, so before i pass official judgment, i need to know what he means.

he wants to incinerate the entire middle east.

a real rational sort of fellow.

[retiredman]

It didnt sound rational to me, but i dont wanna put words in his mouth, so before i pass official judgment, i need to know what he means.

It is clear what he means. he wants to incinerate the middle east. does that sound sensible to you?

[retiredman]

I am not saying you did, but i believe their is a percentage of democrats in general, and % of democrats in the democratic party who believe the government should take care of everyone, and were too stupid to do anything for ourselves.

I feel the democratic party has a wiff of arrogance, elitism and racism, because, if youre not a democrat, your an uncle tom,

and some of them think blacks and other minorities are inferior and too stupid with their own money and lives. So they need the government to take care of them, I mean my god, do we need the government to wipe our ass for us too

I have been a card carrying democrat for my entire life. I am a county committee member. I have attended state conventions. I have worked for democrats in the state legislature. I have managed successful political campaigns...and I have NEVER met one single democrat in ALL THOSE YEARS who EVER "believed that the government should take care of everyone, and were too stupid to do anything for ourselves." Not once. And I have NEVER met one single democrat in ALL THOSE YEARS who EVER believed "blacks and other minorities are inferior and too stupid with their own money and lives. So they need the government to take care of them." Not once. For you to continue with hyperbolic flatulent rhetoric like that makes the possibility of intelligent discussion remote.

[Yurt]

I have been a card carrying democrat for my entire life. I am a county committee member. I have attended state conventions. I have worked for democrats in the state legislature. I have managed successful political campaigns...and I have NEVER met one single democrat in ALL THOSE YEARS who EVER "believed that the government should take care of everyone, and were too stupid to do anything for ourselves." Not once. And I have NEVER met one single democrat in ALL THOSE YEARS who EVER believed "blacks and other minorities are inferior and too stupid with their own money and lives. So they need the government to take care of them." Not once. For you to continue with hyperbolic flatulent rhetoric like that makes the possibility of intelligent discussion remote.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK UP