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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    are you suggesting that there aren't white males who make less than blacks male or female? your very premise is flawed. the world is inequal, short people supposedly make less, fat people, ugly people.... are you suggesting that those people are a "protected class?"
    I am suggesting that pay inequity and economic inequity exists. for women and for blacks in America. are you suggesting otherwise?

    To say that one black making more or one woman making more makes that national inequity disappear is silly.

    and I think it is good social policy and good economic policy to devise ways to reduce those disparities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am suggesting that pay inequity and economic inequity exists. for women and for blacks in America. are you suggesting otherwise?

    To say that one black making more or one woman making more makes that national inequity disappear is silly.

    and I think it is good social policy and good economic policy to devise ways to reduce those disparities.
    So did Marx.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    that is stupid. we should have a society where blacks and women have equal economic opportunity.

    and if rich white guys are earning more in their jobs while blacks and women toil in similar jobs for less money, they OUGHT to be taxed!
    the opportunity is equal......

    everyone should be taxed....each dollar i make should be taxed at the same rate as any other dollar any one else makes.....

    if i am better at it than you why should more be taken from me and less from you....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    the opportunity is equal......

    everyone should be taxed....each dollar i make should be taxed at the same rate as any other dollar any one else makes.....

    if i am better at it than you why should more be taken from me and less from you....

    if you have a problem with the progressive tax schedule philosophy that has been in place since the beginning of the income tax in America, take it up with your congressman and senator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    the opportunity is equal......

    everyone should be taxed....each dollar i make should be taxed at the same rate as any other dollar any one else makes.....

    if i am better at it than you why should more be taken from me and less from you....
    Because you are white----sins of the fathers and all that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Because you are white----sins of the fathers and all that stuff.
    i am a black woman,......i have no idea where you got the idea i was a white male.....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    i am a black woman,......i have no idea where you got the idea i was a white male.....
    oh --- my mistake---I owe ya. What will it take to make up for all the blacks my race killed ?

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    Cool Native Land ???

    I think that they could support their native land ever so much better if they were much closer to it, like say IN IT! So, if they are all so into this idea, why don't they go back to Africa?? I'll be tthey could take up a collection to help finance the trip ... I'll kick in a few bucks!

    And while we are whining about how oppressed the poor black folks are, what about what this nation did to the folks that were here first? The whole durn country was stolen from the Native Americans, and the black folks are livin in high cotton compared to how most of the Original Americans are living. Most of the reservations where we shoved these people are no better than third world nations, total abject poverty ... thanks to the good old US government.

    And where does that leave this country gal? I've got a multitude of woes ... I'm of Scots/ English/ German/ Native American descent, and short, fat and female to boot ... wow, I think I'll go lock myself in a closet and cry .... Oy vey! Get a life! Wake up and smell the coffee! Get over it already ! Learn from the past ... but don't dwell on it, its over ... its like beating a dead horse!

    Just my 2 cents! Lee~*
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am suggesting that pay inequity and economic inequity exists. for women and for blacks in America. are you suggesting otherwise?

    To say that one black making more or one woman making more makes that national inequity disappear is silly.

    and I think it is good social policy and good economic policy to devise ways to reduce those disparities.
    so then if the same number of black people as white people make an equal amount, our we equal now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so then if the same number of black people as white people make an equal amount, our we equal now?
    silly question.

    Blacks make up just about 12% of the population... about 37 million as of 2000

    If 10 million whites made minimum wage and 10 million blacks also did, that would hardly make us "equal" now, would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    silly question.

    Blacks make up just about 12% of the population... about 37 million as of 2000

    If 10 million whites made minimum wage and 10 million blacks also did, that would hardly make us "equal" now, would it?
    They can never be "fairly" compensated. It's history that cannot be undone. From here on out your handouts and uplifts are an insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    silly question.

    Blacks make up just about 12% of the population... about 37 million as of 2000

    If 10 million whites made minimum wage and 10 million blacks also did, that would hardly make us "equal" now, would it?
    given your answers lately, i had to make sure you knew this. hence, your talk about "equality" is nonsensical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    They can never be "fairly" compensated. It's history that cannot be undone. From here on out your handouts and uplifts are an insult.
    who, exactly are social programs an insult to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    given your answers lately, i had to make sure you knew this. hence, your talk about "equality" is nonsensical.
    Where did I say anything about equality?

    I said equity. Go check out a dictionary for the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    that is stupid. we should have a society where blacks and women have equal economic opportunity.

    and if rich white guys are earning more in their jobs while blacks and women toil in similar jobs for less money, they OUGHT to be taxed!
    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    women and blacks should have economic equity. Or do you think it is perfectly OK that across our country a gender pay equity gap exists? Or a racial pay equity gap exists?
    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    hardly. are you suggesting that because there are some black men who make the same money for the same jobs in America, that therefore economic inequity is a myth?
    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Where did I say anything about equality?

    I said equity. Go check out a dictionary for the difference.
    you are the one who needs a dictionary. the economic equity you are talking about is directly related to the income "inequality" you claim exists. the opposite of that would be income "equality." exactly what i said, and what you are saying doesn't exist.

    silly kid, big words are for grown ups.

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