what is so hard to solve about pakistan's tribal area

[actsnoblemartin]

War with china and russia is only a matter of time, or perhaps we are in an economic war with china, and a new cold war with russia

and the chinese, russians etc...are funding the taliban through iran.....conventional forces can not win an asymmetrical war in the mountains

[actsnoblemartin]

we dont need to go into the tribal areas, we could just nuke them.

As long as russians and chiniese dont arm them with weapons, i think we could win, a ground invasion.

Im not saying we should do a ground invasion

[The Reverend]

we dont need to go into the tribal areas, we could just nuke them.

As long as russians and chiniese dont arm them with weapons, i think we could win, a ground invasion.

Im not saying we should do a ground invasion

You seem to forget what wil happen if we nuke Pakistan.
First since they are our allies that will make out allies wonder if they are next.
Second you seem to forget that they have nukes as well, what do you think they will do if we fire ours at them? Just sit there? Not likely more likely they will fire back and if they can't hit us Israel will be their next most likely target.

[actsnoblemartin]

here we go

You seem to forget what wil happen if we nuke Pakistan.

ME: not all of pakistan, just the tribal areas, that the government has no control over now

First since they are our allies that will make out allies wonder if they are next.

ME: they are not our truly allies, just allies of convience.

Second you seem to forget that they have nukes as well, what do you think they will do if we fire ours at them?

ME: if they do anything stupid, they will pay

Just sit there? Not likely more likely they will fire back and if they can't hit us Israel will be their next most likely target.

ME: and if they go after israel, I hope israel nukes them, or if not we should

[retiredman]

post 27 remains germane.

[The Reverend]

here we go


ME: not all of pakistan, just the tribal areas, that the government has no control over now

Doesn't matter it is still part of the country. How would you feel if someone decided to nuke a part of the US that our government couldn't control.
ME: they are not our truly allies, just allies of convience.

Allies none-the-less.
ME: if they do anything stupid, they will pay
Are you really winnling to take that risk? China another Pakistan ally doesn't like us and this would be a good enough excuse for them to attack us. They have plenty of nukes and they can reach us.

ME: and if they go after israel, I hope israel nukes them, or if not we should

Israel is small, one well placed nuke would totally incapicitate them.

Another reason not to. Say we nuke them. Pakistan has another route to get back at us. Give the terrorists nuclear weapons. Something the US is trying to prevent. Are you willing to risk nukes getting into teh hands of the same people that hit us on 9/11? Are you that confident that our borders are secure enough to make sure no one gets through?

[manu1959]

War with china and russia is only a matter of time, or perhaps we are in an economic war with china, and a new cold war with russia

there will never be a convential war with china and russia.....

russia will always be war by proxy.......china will wage economic war......

the middle east .... well they like to die for their cause.....and they will....a nucular missle is the ultimate suicide bomb.....