How do you negotiate

[Kathianne]

Question answered, not my problem if the answer don't suit ya.

No, you didn't:

http://debatepolicy.com/showpost.php...&postcount=142

On the other hand, you are for open borders, right?

[OCA]

No, you didn't:

http://debatepolicy.com/showpost.php...&postcount=142

On the other hand, you are for open borders, right?

Sure I did.

Nice try at mischaracterizing my position on the border, do you teach your students the same ethics?

My official position is seal up the border first then amnesty for all non-felon committing illegals..........not that this has shit to do with this thread.

[Kathianne]

Sure I did.

Nice try at mischaracterizing my position on the border, do you teach your students the same ethics?

My official position is seal up the border first then amnesty for all non-felon committing illegals..........not that this has shit to do with this thread.

You feeling pressured? Nice segue to the teaching deal, are you 12? It actually has quite a bit to do with the borders/amnesty issue, as your position appears as I said earlier, consistent on both. The fact that you fail to recognize it or the other issues raised is not anyone else's problem.

Oh, and you didn't answer his question.

[OCA]

You feeling pressured? Nice segue to the teaching deal, are you 12? It actually has quite a bit to do with the borders/amnesty issue, as your position appears as I said earlier, consistent on both. The fact that you fail to recognize it or the other issues raised is not anyone else's problem.

Oh, and you didn't answer his question.

Pressured? LOL. I just figured that if mischaracterization and obfuscation were two of your online traits which you seem to be exhibiting lately maybe you were passing that on to future generations.

There is zero correlation between the Israeli problem and illegals, don't be silly.

Yes I answered.

[Kathianne]

Pressured? LOL. I just figured that if mischaracterization and obfuscation were two of your online traits which you seem to be exhibiting lately maybe you were passing that on to future generations.

There is zero correlation between the Israeli problem and illegals, don't be silly.

Yes I answered.

No you didn't. You are being silly.

[OCA]

No you didn't. You are being silly.

Reread....again.

[Kathianne]

Reread....again.

I already did, now you.

[Dilloduck]

1) The history of Jews in Israel can be traced back to before Biblical times. Remember they are the ones that built Jerusalem.

2) The land was not stolen nor was it the Palestinians. It was the Ottoman Empires and when Britian defeated them it became Britians.

And Jews swiped it from the Caananites at el. Do Jews have dibs on it ?

[OCA]

I already did, now you.

I guess comprehension was lost on you.

Anyway, thanks for participating though, useless as it was on your part.

[OCA]

And Jews swiped it from the Caananites at el. Do Jews have dibs on it ?

Yes, God drew up a 40,000 yr lease on it and Moses signed at the x.

[Dilloduck]

Yes, God drew up a 40,000 yr lease on it and Moses signed at the x.

With witnesses ??

[Kathianne]

I guess comprehension was lost on you.

Anyway, thanks for participating though, useless as it was on your part.

You're welcome. Tell me OCA, do you feel fulfilled as a man, a Greek to be so full of hubris? Just wondering.

[DragonStryk72]

So what do we gain by the existence of Israel besides our tax dollars being used to prop them up in a way we prop no other nation up? Certainly they are not our ally because that would denote that they reciprocate the aid which everyone knows nothing ever flows our way from Israel besides Manischewitz wine.

I know! Our politicians get votes and money from the huge Israeli lobby here in America, and in reciprocation our politicians pass legislation which allows Israel to continue to practice its policy of apartheid and human rights abuses, abuses to which America continuously turns a blind eye towards.

And what, Palestines doing a better job? People were all for Israel, until they kept winning, then suddenly they were "bullying" Palestinians, by not letting their enemies beat the shit out of them, or just hand over land to them like Europe did to Germany and Italy in WWII. God forbid that Israel defend itself. And as for these human rights violations and apartheid, I'll a link for those.

I do agree, we should not be pumping them up, however, nor should we be holding their leash back either, which we do. When they fight back, we step in and back them down, instead of simply letting the inevitable happen. Israel OR Palestine will control the area, but not both.

[Yurt]

Most Palestinians can trace their lineage on that land going back many generations, very few Jews can trace it back any farther past when their grandparents emigrated from Europe.

So its ok to force the Palestinians into exile but not the Jews? If not give back the land stolen by the U.N. in 1947.

there is no such thing as palestinians, they were ottomans, egyptians and so forth. its interesting that you mention lineage..... so if the jews were in fact forced off the land by muslims, crusades, and the romans....they had to of course live elsewhere until such time it was safe to come back.... isn't that what in essense one could argue they did?

this argument potentially could go forever, who was there first....who has greater claim....

no?

[OCA]

You're welcome. Tell me OCA, do you feel fulfilled as a man, a Greek to be so full of hubris? Just wondering.

If by hubris you mean my self confidence.....why yes, it does, quite so. Thanks for noticing.