Americans Want to WIN in Iraq, are Liberals listening???

[TheStripey1]

I have - lots.. now please answer the question to me previous post:

What part of Christ fits the definition of a Liberal?

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

- It can't be this description because Jesus didn't get involved politically and he certainly wasn't on earth to establish or reform ANY religion, he was here to change the hearts of man and to die for their sin.

2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

- Again, Jesus belonged to no politicla party or agenda.

3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

- Not applicable

4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

- Christ demands us to give ourselves to him - that is anything BUT "individual freedom".

5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

- Christ wasn't here for our "personal expression"

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

- See answers above, Christ wasn't political

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

- Christ was very INTOLERANT towards the pharasies and other self-righteous people.

8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

- Christ tells us we need to stop trying to find freedom in ourselves or ideas and surrender all of ourselves to Him.

9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

- I suppose you could say Christ "Donated Liberally" as he gave his life, but this word used in action is not the same meaning as saying someone is a "liberal".

10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun 14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15. (often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.

- These last 5 - once again - have no bearing on Christ or who he was and why he was here.

you tell me... as this is the passage I was referring to... which of your dictionary definitions best fit Jesus' own words?

King James Version of the Holy Bible, Matthew 25:

The Judgment of the Nations
31 ¶ When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 for I was ahungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee ahungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 for I was ahungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee ahungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[avatar4321]

you tell me... as this is the passage I was referring to... which of your dictionary definitions best fit Jesus' own words?

great verses, but where do they say rob from your fellow man and give to the poor?

[Gaffer]

It's about Iraq, jack... poah gaffer... can't follow the trail without a flashlight...

but what do you care if I bash the pseudo christians, you're a godless heathen... at least you said you were last week... did you find JEEEEEEEEEEEEZUS over the weekend?

You sure are a hateful son of a bitch.

As I said typical of you to bash christians instead of discussing polls about iraq. I don't take any creedence in polls whether they are right or left wing. But I firmly believe that the majority of Americans are in favor of supporting the war and the troops.

If you do any reading of other than leftie liberal bullshit you will find that the surge is working which will piss you off no end. Because the last thing you want is for the administration to be successful at anything.

If you want to rant about christians take it to the religious forum.

[TheStripey1]

great verses, but where do they say rob from your fellow man and give to the poor?

do you understand what he is/was saying, ava? he says if you don't take care of the least of society, that HE will send you down to be with the devil... are you ready for everlasting hell and damnation, ava? a lot of your pals will be there...

[TheStripey1]

You sure are a hateful son of a bitch.

As I said typical of you to bash christians instead of discussing polls about iraq. I don't take any creedence in polls whether they are right or left wing. But I firmly believe that the majority of Americans are in favor of supporting the war and the troops.

If you do any reading of other than leftie liberal bullshit you will find that the surge is working which will piss you off no end. Because the last thing you want is for the administration to be successful at anything.

If you want to rant about christians take it to the religious forum.

conservatives hate liberals, jesus was a liberal therefore conservatives hate jesus...

and I did comment ON the poll... did you miss it in your haste to spew your hatred of liberals?

most americans consider bush's war on iraq to be a mistake... as per the polls... personally, I don't like polls either... they are usually only 1000 people polled and they never tell you where those people live...

[avatar4321]

do you understand what he is/was saying, ava? he says if you don't take care of the least of society, that HE will send you down to be with the devil... are you ready for everlasting hell and damnation, ava? a lot of your pals will be there...

I understand Him perfectly. You, however, are trying to read your socialist idealogy into what he says.

[-Cp]

conservatives hate liberals, jesus was a liberal therefore conservatives hate jesus...

and I did comment ON the poll... did you miss it in your haste to spew your hatred of liberals?

most americans consider bush's war on iraq to be a mistake... as per the polls... personally, I don't like polls either... they are usually only 1000 people polled and they never tell you where those people live...

CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE ANY SORT OF BIBLICAL PASSAGES THAT ASSERT THAT CHRIST WAS A "LIBERAL"?

You're PARABLE of the Sheep and the goats doesn't make ths case Christ was or is a Liberal..

[manu1959]

Jesus was a liberal. He wanted to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, house the homeless, heal the infirm... if democrats aka liberals, want to do that for the poor in our country, then if you hold Jesus is as high of a regard as you claim to, why do you deny them?

no the liberals want to take my money and give it to those that can not figure out how to make money....you know i have to pass a drug test every 2 weeks to get my money.....tell ya what....if they can pass a drug test every two weeks they can have some....oh and i have to have a physical every year to prove i don't smoke and do not drink to excess....or they cancel my life and health insurance......if they can pass that.....i will give them that as well....

[GW in Ohio]

"Americans Want to WIN in Iraq, are Liberals listening???"

You have got this so wrong.

Over 2/3 of Americans acknowledge that President Shit-for-Brains and his coterie of neocons have made a horrible mess of things with their ill-advised invasion of Iraq.

There is no "winning" in Iraq. There is no good outcome possible.

The best we can hope for is to keep the boy king distracted by other things for the remainder of his term so he does not have an opportunity to cause any further mischief in the world. In 2008 we will have a real president, who can begin to repair the damage caused by the Bush administration.

[glockmail]

"Americans Want to WIN in Iraq, are Liberals listening???"

You have got this so wrong.

Over 2/3 of Americans acknowledge that President [---]-for-Brains and his coterie of neocons have made a horrible mess of things with their ill-advised invasion of Iraq.

There is no "winning" in Iraq. There is no good outcome possible.

The best we can hope for is to keep the boy king distracted by other things for the remainder of his term so he does not have an opportunity to cause any further mischief in the world. In 2008 we will have a real president, who can begin to repair the damage caused by the Bush administration.

So what would you have done about Saddam, his support of terrorists, his assassination attempt on an ex-president, and his threats against the US and our allies?

[GW in Ohio]

"So what would you have done about Saddam, his support of terrorists, his assassination attempt on an ex-president, and his threats against the US and our allies?"

Saddam Hussein was no threat to us. He had no WMDs, and he was so weakened by the sanctions that he wasn't even worth worrying about. He was just a nasty little dictator.....one among many throughout the world.

We should have deployed our military force wisely, instead of dissipating it in Iraq.

Afghanistan was a good use of our military. Too bad we didn't do the job right there, instead of diverting people to Iraq.

[glockmail]

Saddam Hussein was no threat to us. He had no WMDs, and he was so weakened by the sanctions that he wasn't even worth worrying about. He was just a nasty little dictator.....one among many throughout the world.

We should have deployed our military force wisely, instead of dissipating it in Iraq.

Afghanistan was a good use of our military. Too bad we didn't do the job right there, instead of diverting people to Iraq.

According to most leaders in cogress, our allies, and the UN, Saddam did have WMDs. But say for a momenet that he did not.

Do you deny that Saddam was supporting terrorism? Do you deny that he was obtaining weapons from France as part of the oil-for-food scandal? Do you deny that France, Germany and Russia were being bribed by Saddam?

And I'll ask you a second time, what would you do with a dicatator that attempted to assasinate an ex-President?