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    Default Vets for Freedom Hope to Impact Media and Political Class

    I wonder how the anti war left will view and treat these vets who are out to make sure the good news from Iraq is not ignored

    And to make sure the Dems do not surrender in Iraq


    Vets for Freedom Hope to Impact Media and Political Class
    By Kevin Mooney | April 8, 2008 - 06:51 ET

    War veterans who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan have been touring the country over the past few weeks in an effort to focus public attention on recent strategic gains in the war against terrorism. Vets for Freedom(VFF) is a non-partisan organization with 20,000 members and 44 chapters. Captain Pete Hegseth, who served with the 101st Airborne Division in Iraq in 2005 and part of 2006, serves as the executive director.

    The VFF's "National Heroes Tour" was launched aboard the U.S.S. Midway in San Diego, California in mid-March and included stops in Los Angles, Phoenix, Ariz., San Antonio, Texas, Des Moines, Iowa, Fort Campbell Ky., Colombia, S.C. and Virginia Beach, Va. Today the Vets are visiting Capitol Hill where they are working to persuade members of Congress to fully support the military mission in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The tour continues up to New York City tomorrow.

    In wide ranging interview Hegseth discussed some of the tactical changes that have enabled the U.S. military to forge new alliances and to go on the offensive against Al Qaeda. The U.S. is now better equipped for the purpose of counter-insurgency as a result of some the lessons learned in Iraq Hegseth explains. Moreover, with momentum shifting decisively away from the terrorists over 90,000 "Sons of Iraq" are now standing up in partnership with the U.S. to help secure the country, he points out.

    Nevertheless, the strategic gains are fragile and can be reversed if policymakers withdraw U.S. forces before the mission is complete, Hegseth warns.

    for the complete article and interview

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kevin-m...olitical-class


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    Good news in the war is bad news for the liberals, they won't want to hear this! They'll claim these folks are trying to glorify war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    Good news in the war is bad news for the liberals, they won't want to hear this! They'll claim these folks are trying to glorify war.
    Will Moveon.org run another "Betray Us" ad smearing these vets as they did Gen Petraeus?


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Will Moveon.org run another "Betray Us" ad smearing these vets as they did Gen Petraeus?

    All liberals give themselves two choices, either smear them or ignore them. But never, ever, praise them.

    That, is liberal gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    All liberals give themselves two choices, either smear them or ignore them. But never, ever, praise them.

    That, is liberal gospel.
    The liberal hate machine is starting

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/


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    I think that the tactical gains of the US military are laudable.

    I have never doubted the abilities or the commitment of our troops to perform their missions. We will always prevail on the battlefields of Iraq because we are and always will be the superior fighting force.

    I have always doubted the abilities of the Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds who live in the artificially created "country" we call Iraq to put aside their millennia old enmity and forge a multicultural Jeffersonian democracy. I would suggest that the sectarian violence that has recently started to percolate again is an indication that my doubts may be justified.

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    Another example of the left's "support" for the troops


    http://www.dailykos.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I think that the tactical gains of the US military are laudable.

    I have never doubted the abilities or the commitment of our troops to perform their missions. We will always prevail on the battlefields of Iraq because we are and always will be the superior fighting force.

    I have always doubted the abilities of the Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds who live in the artificially created "country" we call Iraq to put aside their millennia old enmity and forge a multicultural Jeffersonian democracy. I would suggest that the sectarian violence that has recently started to percolate again is an indication that my doubts may be justified.
    This will be nothing but a political circus. What should be a serious evaluation of the situation in Iraq is likely being viewed by the Dem candidates as a free campaign advertisement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    This will be nothing but a political circus. What should be a serious evaluation of the situation in Iraq is likely being viewed by the Dem candidates as a free campaign advertisement.
    can you address the issue in my last paragraph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    can you address the issue in my last paragraph?
    Sure

    This is what will happen during the hearings

    Between the Dem jackasses and the left-wing media, this Patriot will be fried with a biased political agenda. The left doesn't want a fair discussion on ANYTHING


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Sure

    This is what will happen during the hearings

    Between the Dem jackasses and the left-wing media, this Patriot will be fried with a biased political agenda. The left doesn't want a fair discussion on ANYTHING
    YOU didn't address my issue regarding the artificial construction of Iraq by post WWI Europeans to begin with and the enmity that has always existed between the groups that were encapsulated by the creation of that artificial nation.

    Can you do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I have always doubted the abilities of the Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds who live in the artificially created "country" we call Iraq to put aside their millennia old enmity and forge a multicultural Jeffersonian democracy. I would suggest that the sectarian violence that has recently started to percolate again is an indication that my doubts may be justified.
    i see this too MFM. no matter how much we beat down insurgents and how far we get a gov going, some group is gonna stand up and mess it all up and these wussies that are their "army" over there will crumble. we just need to take the hint that they don't want us there, aprrently they don't want to set up a gov or fight for one, or to live a normal (in our sense of narmal atleast) life. let them just go on killing each other.

    it is sad when you really think about it.

    on a side note, i do believe that no matter what we do, that will will probably be back majorly in that region again within 10 years.
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    Berlin in 1946 had it's issues with Nazi's and their supporters who would not stop fighting


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    yah, but back then we could also totally wipe out and destroy the will to fight. with the binding of out troops hands and making them afraid to do what they are trained to do and just do the job, we have to drag it out and play "nice". so while we totally kick ass when fighting (straight on, which is rare when you fight cowards like them), we havne't been able to tatolly root out and destroy their will to fight.

    that is old school fighting (what we like to call the right way) and the new ROE/new school fighting (the liberl media over your shoulder way) dif in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeybone View Post
    yah, but back then we could also totally wipe out and destroy the will to fight. with the binding of out troops hands and making them afraid to do what they are trained to do and just do the job, we have to drag it out and play "nice". so while we totally kick ass when fighting (straight on, which is rare when you fight cowards like them), we havne't been able to tatolly root out and destroy their will to fight.

    that is old school fighting (what we like to call the right way) and the new ROE/new school fighting (the liberl media over your shoulder way) dif in my eyes.
    So far the troops have done an outstandng job killing and capturing the terrorists

    Why stop? Why hand the terrorists a victory as the Dems want to do?

    Take the handcuffs off and let the troops do what they do best - kill the enemy


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