Iranian women rights activists arrested

[LiberalNation]

Shamefull. Womans' rights still have a long way to go in the ME. Hopefully one day the actions of brave woman like these will fix the situation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070304...omenrightsdemo

TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian security forces on Sunday arrested around 30 women's rights activists rallying outside a Tehran court where a group of their fellow campaigners were on trial over a demonstration last year.

"My clients and other women who had gathered in front of the court were arrested," Nasrin Sotoodeh, the lawyer for the accused, was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency.

According to unofficial reports, around 30 people were detained, including some of the most prominent women's rights activists in Iran.

The protestors had gathered in front of the revolutionary court in solidarity with five women on trial over their roles in a demonstration which was broken up by police in June last year.

Nushin Ahmadi Khorasani, Parvin Ardalan, Shahla Entesari, Susan Tahmasebi and Fariba Davudi Mohajer were standing trial for organising an "unauthorised" rally to ask for equal rights for women.

It was not clear which of the accused were among those arrested.

Sotoodeh later told AFP that the arrested activists had been transferred to the notorious Evin prison in northern Tehran.

"The families of those (arrested) who do not have a problem have been told to bring in property documents to bail them out," the lawyer said. "But this does not apply to those who do have a problem."

Sotoodeh said that the authorities have still not officially said how many people were arrested and or released their names.

Seventy people, most of them women, were arrested at the protest last June when they called for improved rights and changes to laws discriminating against women.

Under Iranian law, married women have to go through a lengthy process to be granted a divorce, and the testimony of two women is equal to that of one man.

Rights groups claimed that some demonstrators at that protest were beaten by the police.

Those arrested in June were all subsequently released, although one detained protester, reformist ex-MP Ali-Akbar Musavi Khoini, was held in prison until October

[MtnBiker]

Does the idea of Western women's rights reconcile with Islamic rule?

[Gaffer]

In islam women are second class citizens. That's why they wear the hajib and can't go anywhere without being accompanied by a male family member. They cannot drive or own anything. A woman that is raped is subject to execution. It's all there in the koran, which is what all the islamic countries recognize as the law. No one is going to get any rights when islam rules.

[Abbey Marie]

These are brave women.

[Hobbit]

In islam women are second class citizens. That's why they wear the hajib and can't go anywhere without being accompanied by a male family member. They cannot drive or own anything. A woman that is raped is subject to execution. It's all there in the koran, which is what all the islamic countries recognize as the law. No one is going to get any rights when islam rules.

Most of that stuff isn't actually in there. Shariah law is a 'make it up as you go' legal code. The primary reason men get away with doing such horrible things to women is because women are forbidden to learn to read, meaning they've never read the Koran.

[Gaffer]

Most of that stuff isn't actually in there. Shariah law is a 'make it up as you go' legal code. The primary reason men get away with doing such horrible things to women is because women are forbidden to learn to read, meaning they've never read the Koran.

The stuff is in there. And your right they aren't allowed to learn to read or get an education. It's all there in the koran, the hadaith and the sharia (sp). The only things lower than women are infidels and jews.

[Dilloduck]

Shamefull. Womans' rights still have a long way to go in the ME. Hopefully one day the actions of brave woman like these will fix the situation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070304...omenrightsdemo

TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian security forces on Sunday arrested around 30 women's rights activists rallying outside a Tehran court where a group of their fellow campaigners were on trial over a demonstration last year.

"My clients and other women who had gathered in front of the court were arrested," Nasrin Sotoodeh, the lawyer for the accused, was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency.

According to unofficial reports, around 30 people were detained, including some of the most prominent women's rights activists in Iran.

The protestors had gathered in front of the revolutionary court in solidarity with five women on trial over their roles in a demonstration which was broken up by police in June last year.

Nushin Ahmadi Khorasani, Parvin Ardalan, Shahla Entesari, Susan Tahmasebi and Fariba Davudi Mohajer were standing trial for organising an "unauthorised" rally to ask for equal rights for women.

It was not clear which of the accused were among those arrested.

Sotoodeh later told AFP that the arrested activists had been transferred to the notorious Evin prison in northern Tehran.

"The families of those (arrested) who do not have a problem have been told to bring in property documents to bail them out," the lawyer said. "But this does not apply to those who do have a problem."

Sotoodeh said that the authorities have still not officially said how many people were arrested and or released their names.

Seventy people, most of them women, were arrested at the protest last June when they called for improved rights and changes to laws discriminating against women.

Under Iranian law, married women have to go through a lengthy process to be granted a divorce, and the testimony of two women is equal to that of one man.

Rights groups claimed that some demonstrators at that protest were beaten by the police.

Those arrested in June were all subsequently released, although one detained protester, reformist ex-MP Ali-Akbar Musavi Khoini, was held in prison until October

Would you suggest that the West intervene on the part of the women or would that just create MORE Islamic chauvenist pigs ?

[Nienna]

The stuff is in there. And your right they aren't allowed to learn to read or get an education. It's all there in the koran, the hadaith and the sharia (sp). The only things lower than women are infidels and jews.

I am not familiar with the Koran. In the Bible, when it tells a woman to submit to her husband (not ALL men), the passage is followed by instruction for the man. For instance, in 1Peter 3, Peter instructs wive to submit to their husbands, to live with purity and reverence, and to avoid vanity. Immediately following this passage, Peter instructs men to be considerate as they live with their wives, to treat them with especial respect as coheirs of the kingdom of God. Many times, men chose to ignore the second halves of the messages, but they were still there.

Is that the way it goes in the Koran? Are there accompanying instructions for men?

[CSM]

I am not familiar with the Koran. In the Bible, when it tells a woman to submit to her husband (not ALL men), the passage is followed by instruction for the man. For instance, in 1Peter 3, Peter instructs wive to submit to their husbands, to live with purity and reverence, and to avoid vanity. Immediately following this passage, Peter instructs men to be considerate as they live with their wives, to treat them with especial respect as coheirs of the kingdom of God. Many times, men chose to ignore the second halves of the messages, but they were still there.

Is that the way it goes in the Koran? Are there accompanying instructions for men?

Of course, but they usually involve something like recommendations for beating your wife daily.

[LiberalNation]

Not really from what I know of the Koran it treats woman about as well as the bible except for the viel being a requirment.

[CSM]

Not really from what I know of the Koran it treats woman about as well as the bible except for the viel being a requirment.

My comment was sarcasm....guess you are not used to that

[CSM]

But in the interestof being truthful:

4:34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

I'm thinking some female posters on this board would be all black and blue!

[MtnBiker]

Not really from what I know of the Koran it treats woman about as well as the bible except for the viel being a requirment.

Perhaps a look at this woman's bookhttp://www.womensrightsblog.com/2007...y_of_an_i.html, will give you a better understanding of how islamic women are to be treated by the guide of the koran.

[shattered]

But in the interestof being truthful:



I'm thinking some female posters on this board would be all black and blue!

I dunno about black and blue.. I don't know any woman that would tolerate it once, much less repeatedly...

[CSM]

I dunno about black and blue.. I don't know any woman that would tolerate it once, much less repeatedly...

Simple...because Allah says so! Besides, who could she turn to for help?