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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    That's all nonsense. The programs work. They're not unconstitutional. And promoting the general welfare is the purpose of government.

    Could you please show me where social programs are mentioned in the Constitution? Also, please take the time to read this and then tell me that giving away my hard earned dollars to another person just so they may remain dependent upon government to control their lives is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    we can argue about the governments primary role, but a big percentage of social programs money goes to illegals.

    we cut that, were in better straights
    no shit it pisses me off thinking my hard earned dollars go to support some Illegal on welfare and food stamps

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    'War good, children bad.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    That's all nonsense. The programs work. They're not unconstitutional. And promoting the general welfare is the purpose of government.
    Really, education's working? Welfare is working? then why are the grades dropping, basically at the same rate as we throw more money to the schools, and the number of people on welfare growing?

    If Social security were 'working' need would diminish, not increase, and for education, literacy, math, and science skills would be rising, not falling. So how are these "working"? do you mean it in the same vein, "My car is working because it still runs..... sort of.", cause that is about the closest these programs are getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
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    So then, why haven't the Democrats stopped it, given their majority hold on the Congress?

    Second, look at what was said, "If they would cut waste", meaning that, should the government spend conservatively, then the money would be there for both the education and the national defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    'War good, children bad.'

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    You mean living good, throwing away money bad.
    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Could you please show me where social programs are mentioned in the Constitution?
    "...promote the general welfare." -- Preamble

    "...provide for the general welfare" -- Art. 1, Sec. 8
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