The Homosexual Movement And Pedophilia

[Hagbard Celine]

You should know what you're sticking your dick in before you start. If you pick the chick up in a bar, you;re playing with fire.



It's written in black and white that you can kill to defend yourself. Quit trying to change up in midstream to try and make it look like you're right.



Plenty of churches, agencies and what not that would bend over backward to feed them.




What if your mom had balls, would that make her your dad? And yes, it would still be wrong. I know of a rapist that is out ad about because we can get enough evidence to try him in court. So, I keep a really good eye on his ass.



WTF kind of scenario are you fabricating now? If you see a kid being assaulted the law states you can intervene and stop the assault. The law says you can call the police. It's not kidnapping, it's doing what's right. Of course, that concept seems to be alien to you.

I'm not changing anything midstream. All details in these scenarios have stayed the same since the beginning except for the ones ya'll asked for further information on. The fact that you agree that killing in self-defense is okay is proof that gray areas exist. Obviously not all murder is wrong. There are gray areas where it can be okay.

[Hagbard Celine]

what is gray about stopping when she says no? you either stop or you don't.

She doesn't say "no." If she said "no" then DUH, if you didn't stop you'd be in the wrong. In the scenario I've laid-out, she never says no. She just starts calling you a rapist and then presses charges. If they had your dna and her word against yours, they could charge you with rape. But would it really be rape? Technically it is rape, but it's not really evil because you know you did nothing wrong (other than picking up and sleeping with a crazy chick).

[ranger]

I'm not changing anything midstream. All details in these scenarios have stayed the same since the beginning except for the ones ya'll asked for further information on. The fact that you agree that killing in self-defense is okay is proof that gray areas exist. Obviously not all murder is wrong. There are gray areas where it can be okay.

Killing someone in self defense is not considered murder. So, why don't you pop your head out of your ass and let some air get to your brain. Maybe it will help you think better.


Then again, maybe you're just too damn dumb for there to be any hope.

[ranger]

She doesn't say "no." If she said "no" then DUH, if you didn't stop you'd be in the wrong. In the scenario I've laid-out, she never says no. She just starts calling you a rapist and then presses charges.

Then you haven't commited rape. You really don't know jack shit about the law or this topic. Maybe you should go hang out in the movie thread or something more your speed.

[Hagbard Celine]

Then you haven't commited rape. You really don't know jack shit about the law or this topic. Maybe you should go hang out in the movie thread or something more your speed.

Hey being a roaring prick doesn't make you right. It just makes you a roaring prick (shrug)

[ranger]

Hey being a roaring prick doesn't make you right. It just makes you a roaring prick (shrug)

Knowing the law makes me right. This post just illustrates my point about you playing out of your league. Maybe something in the photography thread would be your speed. You do know what a photo is, don't you?

[Hagbard Celine]

Knowing the law makes me right. This post just illustrates my point about you playing out of your league. Maybe something in the photography thread would be your speed. You do know what a photo is, don't you?

You're such an idiot that you've proven my point. The fact that the law does not simply dole-out punishment equally to all crimes but instead differentiates between them and even goes so far as to discriminate between the different types of murder is proof that the world is not black and white but is instead made-up of many different gray areas.
Did you think I was just going to drop this simply because your "debate" has devolved into name calling? Give me a break. You declare "victory" and start hurling insults as if you've proven something? Pathetic.

[ranger]

You're such an idiot that you've proven my point. The fact that the law does not simply dole-out punishment equally to all crimes but instead differentiates between them and even goes so far as to discriminate between the different types of murder is proof that the world is not black and white but is instead made-up of many different gray areas.

Fagbeard Celine Dion,
You, my friend, have no fucking clue what the hell you spew, do you? First of all, I've shown you numerous things that are black and white while you have not been able to offer one thing that has shades of gray. Second, the fact that the law has difference levels of murder does not make for shades of gray, it simply o=points out the fact that there are different types of crimes. Once again, it's only gray to someone looking for an angle to get away with something.

Did you think I was just going to drop this simply because your "debate" has devolved into name calling? Give me a break. You declare "victory" and start hurling insults as if you've proven something? Pathetic.

I didn't declare victory, you did when you called me a roaring prick instead of offering any argument. Then you whine when I hurl insults at you, poor baby. Maybe the photography thread would be too rough for you as well. Maybe we can start a singalong thread for you so you can feel safe.

BTW, I start hurling insults when I've realized that trying to talk reasonably to someone such as yourself is a waste of my time. Then I just make a quick point and get in a free shot.

[diuretic]

Someday you may be in a for big surprise...........




Unfortunately they won't kill themselves, which means we should institute the death penalty for child molesters, gay or straight, male or female. If you molest a kid, take them out after a fair trial and hang them by the genitals until they are dead.

And this will mean that a paedophile who sexually assaults a child will murder them to enhance their chances of not being convicted of the sexual assault. Since the penalty is the same they have nothing to lose.

Bad move.

[Hagbard Celine]

Fagbeard Celine Dion,
You, my friend, have no fucking clue what the hell you spew, do you? First of all, I've shown you numerous things that are black and white while you have not been able to offer one thing that has shades of gray. Second, the fact that the law has difference levels of murder does not make for shades of gray, it simply o=points out the fact that there are different types of crimes. Once again, it's only gray to someone looking for an angle to get away with something.



I didn't declare victory, you did when you called me a roaring prick instead of offering any argument. Then you whine when I hurl insults at you, poor baby. Maybe the photography thread would be too rough for you as well. Maybe we can start a singalong thread for you so you can feel safe.

BTW, I start hurling insults when I've realized that trying to talk reasonably to someone such as yourself is a waste of my time. Then I just make a quick point and get in a free shot.

So you're allowed to make post that has no other purpose than to flame me, tell me I'm "out of my league" (Yeah, below my league) and then insult me by pretending as if I'm too stupid to post anywhere besides the photography thread? That's not declaring victory? Am I not allowed to call you names back? Is that a right solely held by you? Like I said: Pathetic.
The entire premise of the debate me and marine82 were in was that the world is filled with gray areas. I've proven beyond a reasonable doubt that gray areas can exist in any area of life. All you've done is back up my claims. Saying that the world is "black and white" is ridiculous and makes you look ridiculous because it's impossible to jive with that. If you acknowledge that there can be different types of murder then obviously it's not black and white. Murder = killing somebody. Seems pretty black and white right? Well what about self defense? What about killing in a war? It's not black and white. You can't just say all murder is wrong and that's the way it is because there are gray areas to be considered. There are many ways and many circumstances in which this can happen. Not all of them are evil (as you have demonstrated by repeating my examples back to me).

[actsnoblemartin]

way to stay on topic, and try moral equvalency

I suppose the heterosexual paedophiles got it wrong then.

[Missileman]

I'm not changing anything midstream. All details in these scenarios have stayed the same since the beginning except for the ones ya'll asked for further information on. The fact that you agree that killing in self-defense is okay is proof that gray areas exist. Obviously not all murder is wrong. There are gray areas where it can be okay.

Killing in self-defense is not a form of murder.

[Hagbard Celine]

Killing in self-defense is not a form of murder.

No sh*t. That's the whole point.

[82Marine89]

No I said she accused you of rape. I NEVER included her saying "no." Here's the proof: http://www.debatepolicy.com/showpost...&postcount=114

Here is what you said...
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showpost...&postcount=114

Right here:http://www.debatepolicy.com/showpost...&postcount=122

That says I would prosecute them for murder. There is a difference between murder and killing someone that is shooting at you in a combat situation.

Essentially it's the same thing. You'd prosecute someone for feeding themselves simply because technically they were "stealing." You'd have no compassion for their plight. It's just black and white to you.

It's not the same thing. He can pan handle, go to St. Vincent de Paul or any of the other charities that feed the homeless. How would you feel if it was your stuff he stole to feed himself and that placed you in a position that you couldn't feed your family?

It may be a "crime," but does that mean it wasn't warranted or that it's inherently evil simply because it's a "crime?" Remember, you had no other recourse other than to walk away or to burn the place down so it couldn't be used again. You'd prosecute someone for putting an end to a child porno ring simply because they did so through the act of arson?

It's a crime. I would prosecute them.

Who cares? Perhaps another terrorist attack or a natural disaster called all law enforcement personnel away from the area. So would you nap the kid or leave him to be beaten up by his unfit parental units?

Or perhaps Godzilla and Mothra had a huge fight and that pulled away the police, fire, and National Guard. It's still a crime to kidnap him.

[Missileman]

No sh*t. That's the whole point.

No, it takes killing in self defense out of the "all murder is not wrong" equation.