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    Default Vatican sends threat over women priests

    Vatican sends threat over women priests

    ROME, Italy (CNN) -- The Vatican announced Thursday in a general decree that it will excommunicate anyone who would attempt to ordain a woman as a priest and the woman herself.

    According to the decree, the excommunications would take place with immediate effect.

    The decree was signed by Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the congregation for the doctrine of the faith.

    It was not persuasive to Regina Nicolosi, a program coordinator for Roman Catholic Womenpriests (sic), who was ordained two years ago.

    "We have come not to take that too seriously," said Nicolosi, a 66-year-old married mother and grandmother who lives in Red Wing, Minnesota, and said her group is composed of 40 to 50 women priests, none of whom are recognized by the church hierarchy.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...sts/index.html

    why do the people who want women ordained as ministers not take the catholic hierarchy seriously?
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    In my experience, people trying to do this really dont believe Church claims. They are more concerned about their politics.
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    Yea I don't get it. If you don't believe in a church's doctrine....why are you in it?
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    Interesting that even with a pressing priest shortage, the church won't budge on this one.
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    give it another 500 hundred years and they might.

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    Backwards-thinking knuckledraggers all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    The CC have always had their heads up their butts and in the dark ages. I don't see them changing their anti woman stance any time soon.

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    and why should they care what non-believers think?
    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    and why should they care what non-believers think?
    That pretty much sums up the attitude of the Catholic Church, i.e., "Why should we give a fuck what anybody else thinks? We are the only true church and we are right. The Pope is infallible (because one of the Popes declared it to be so) so we're always right. And if you step out of line, we'll excommunicate you."

    That fear and intimidation schtick worked pretty well for the Catholic Church for a long time, but people have gotten a lot smarter and more sophisticated, and there aren't many who are buying it these days.

    I predict in the next 100 years the Catholic Church will finally take its head out of its ass and realize its become a historical curiosity. At that point it will allow priests to be married and ordain women as priests and take other measures that will bring it more up to date.

    By that time, it will be too late to regain its hegemony, however. The Catholic Church will survive as a niche religion. It will market itself based on a certain snob appeal....."We are the one, true, original Christian church."

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    the congregation for the doctrine of the faith.
    No-one expects the Congregation for the Doctine of the Faith!

    Next they'll be calling for the comfy chair!

    Yes, it's the descendant of the Inquisition. Nice eh? Pope Benedict used to head that mob up before he got the big gig.
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    again. Why the heck does it matter what people who dont believe think? It doesnt effect you? Why the hell cant they do as they wish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    and why should they care what non-believers think?
    /shrugs....I'm a believer, though of the Protestant variety, and I think the RCC has made an invalid interpretation of scripture with respect to women holding office in the church.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    again. Why the heck does it matter what people who dont believe think? It doesnt effect you? Why the hell cant they do as they wish?
    They can do whatever they want but it doesn't change the fact that they are misogynistic knuckledraggers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    again. Why the heck does it matter what people who dont believe think? It doesnt effect you? Why the hell cant they do as they wish?
    Why comment on the Democratic Party if you're a Republican?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Backwards-thinking knuckledraggers all.
    Right...its church's like the Trinity United Church of Christ that have the "progressives"......
    The Progressives that can listen to how the US government kills blacks with HIV....
    The Progressives that can learn to scream "God damn America".....
    The Progressives that will vote for Obama....
    No knuckledraggers in this religion...only knuckleheads
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