Attention Veterans!

[darin]

US Air Force, many different divisions and squadrons, August, 1968 to Sept., 1972.

Air National Guard, the Tennessee (truly volunteer) part of it, January, 1983 to December, 1991.

E-9 capable but refused to kiss the asses required to do it.

[Gunny]

US Marine Corps 1980-2000. Gunnery Sergeant (E-7), retired.

[CSM]

Oh I believe the dates (looking at your quotes as I refuse to open a post b the lying sob). "E-9 capable" what the heck does that mean? Every enlisted is E-9 capable from the day they first enlist; whether they actually get there or not is an entirely different story. If he means "promotable" there is no way not with twelve years service total and part of that with an eleven year break in the middle...the very best he could do even with waivers for time in service/ time in grade is E-7 (possibly E-8 if he had some pretty exemplry combat acction). No way eligible for E-9.

Essentially, just one more thing proving what many of us have been saying...Psycho is NOT what he would like us to think.

[Gunny]

Oh I believe the dates (looking at your quotes as I refuse to open a post b the lying sob). "E-9 capable" what the heck does that mean? Every enlisted is E-9 capable from the day they first enlist; whether they actually get there or not is an entirely different story. If he means "promotable" there is no way not with twelve years service total and part of that with an eleven year break in the middle...the very best he could do even with waivers for time in service/ time in grade is E-7 (possibly E-8 if he had some pretty exemplry combat acction). No way eligible for E-9.

Essentially, just one more thing proving what many of us have been saying...Psycho is NOT what he would like us to think.

Not to mention if he was to go active duty, he would likely lose at least one Reserve/Guard stripe in the process.

I agree that the very best he could do TIS-wise would be E-7.

[Psychoblues]

Pretty close, gunny. I almost but did not lose a stripe or rank due to my active duty/air guard transfer despite my approximate 11 year absense from the official ranks of the United States Air Force. I was an E-7 as you intimate when I quit. Yes, I said "quit". I no longer could keep faith in my government to use me in the most proficient manner post Persian Gulf I. I fuskin' quit.

As I had other ambitions and income, the military was no longer a priority for me.

Not to mention if he was to go active duty, he would likely lose at least one Reserve/Guard stripe in the process.

I agree that the very best he could do TIS-wise would be E-7.

As you surmise, the time in service equals out to about what you say. I had promises and encouragements but I could not subject myself or my family to more of what I no longer had faith in.

Thanks for your own service, gunny. I'm glad we did not work together or I would have certainly had to take you back of the barracks and beat the living hell out of you.

Just kidding you, gunny. We would would probably have been best of buddies then and remain so now. Many of my very best ex-military friends are as hard core if not more than you. We get along marvelously!!!!!

[Mr. P]

United States Army
July 73- Dec 77

1/17th (Air) Cav. 82nd Airborne Div.

CW-2

UH-1H Helicopter Pilot, and other duties.

[Gunny]

United States Army
July 73- Dec 77

1/17th (Air) Cav. 82nd Airborne Div.

CW-2

UH-1H Helicopter Pilot, and other duties.

A Huey pilot. I knew you had issues. I've never met ONE that wasn't crazy as a loon behind the stick.

One Major had to prove to me that you can in fact do a full roll in a Huey even though it is physically impossible. I was REAL happy about that.

[Mr. P]

A Huey pilot. I knew you had issues. I've never met ONE that wasn't crazy as a loon behind the stick.

One Major had to prove to me that you can in fact do a full roll in a Huey even though it is physically impossible. I was REAL happy about that.

NEVER let a Field grade touch the controls! Except under direct supervision.

I do have issues…here’s why, I guess. I love this piece.

Why Helicopter Pilots are Different!
Harry Reasoner, February 16, 1971


"The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.


This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to."

There's alot of truth to that.

[BBA]

U.S. Army
Enlisted
17 August 1995 through 25 December 2002
Assigned to Fort Bragg and Fort Lewis
MOS was 75H (Personnel Services Specialist)

[Mr. P]

U.S. Army
Enlisted
17 August 1995 through 25 December 2002
Assigned to Fort Bragg and Fort Lewis
MOS was 75H (Personnel Services Specialist)

Airborne!!!

[Black Lance]

I've enlisted with ANG as an E-3, and am scheduled to leave for BMT on October 7, the day after my 23rd birthday.

[AFbombloader]

United States Air Force 1988 to present
TSgt
Currently a recruiter but returning to what I do best, loading bombs on F-16's in Korea.
AFSC - 462x0 (or 2w1x1 now, but I refuse to acknowledge that)

Assigned to Langley, Upper Heyford, Lakenheath. TDY to more places than I care to remember. Gulf War, Iraqi Freedom, GWOT veteran.

[jimnyc]

United States Air Force 1988 to present
TSgt
Currently a recruiter but returning to what I do best, loading bombs on F-16's in Korea.
AFSC - 462x0 (or 2w1x1 now, but I refuse to acknowledge that)

Assigned to Langley, Upper Heyford, Lakenheath. TDY to more places than I care to remember. Gulf War, Iraqi Freedom, GWOT veteran.

AFbombloader - Welcome to DebatePolicy!

Thank you for your service to our great country!

[Abbey Marie]

United States Air Force 1988 to present
TSgt
Currently a recruiter but returning to what I do best, loading bombs on F-16's in Korea.
AFSC - 462x0 (or 2w1x1 now, but I refuse to acknowledge that)

Assigned to Langley, Upper Heyford, Lakenheath. TDY to more places than I care to remember. Gulf War, Iraqi Freedom, GWOT veteran.

Welcome!

[Pale Rider]

United States Air Force 1988 to present
TSgt
Currently a recruiter but returning to what I do best, loading bombs on F-16's in Korea.
AFSC - 462x0 (or 2w1x1 now, but I refuse to acknowledge that)

Assigned to Langley, Upper Heyford, Lakenheath. TDY to more places than I care to remember. Gulf War, Iraqi Freedom, GWOT veteran.

Very good to have you here AFBombloader, from a fellow AF veteran of eight years. I was wearing TSgt when I got out too, but I had a line number for MSgt and never sewed it on.