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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    Here's how the law stands now: the President can call up to 200,000 reservists/NG for up to 270 days without approval from Congress. And IIRC, any time the President wants to call up a National Guard unit for a federal emergency, such as a war, he is authorized to do so. Army policy is that the active, reserves, and NG are "one Army." But, if one looks at the reasons why they were formed in the first place, it's clear that they were not meant to be that way.
    The question is was there ever a declaration of war? It seems declarations of war dont mean much, we did not even have one for vietnam so we are repeating the same crap again. I think Marine82 is a simpleton, why dont you engage in the debate hill billy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rppearso View Post
    The question is was there ever a declaration of war? It seems declarations of war dont mean much, we did not even have one for vietnam so we are repeating the same crap again. I think Marine82 is a simpleton, why dont you engage in the debate hill billy.
    I will give you the benefit of the doubt that YOU are mistaking two different people here. YOU refer to Marine82 while responding to 5stringsjeff, I am quite sure your are not saying Jeff is a simpleton because if you are your are much dumber than even I give you credit for......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    I will give you the benefit of the doubt that YOU are mistaking two different people here. YOU refer to Marine82 while responding to 5stringsjeff, I am quite sure your are not saying Jeff is a simpleton because if you are your are much dumber than even I give you credit for......
    I was refering to a neg rep hillbilly82 left me regarding this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rppearso View Post
    The question is was there ever a declaration of war? It seems declarations of war dont mean much, we did not even have one for vietnam so we are repeating the same crap again.
    There has been no declaration of war since WWII, and I don't foresee there being one anytime soon. But Congress has authorized the use of force in every major conflict (Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Afghanistan, Iraq).

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    What does any of that have to do with the original question?

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    As an old Air Force vet that saw time in Korea, Viet Nam, Japan, Phillipines and Australia and an old Air National Guard troop that got activated for and served time on Title 10 orders in Grenada, Panama, Saudi Arabia (Persian Gulf I) as well as title 32 missions in Germany, Italy, Spain, Panama, Japan, Korea, Diego Garcia, and countless stateside training missions, I have no objection whatsoever for National Guard troops being mobilized for whatever mission the President and the state governors can agree upon. Get real folks!!!!!!!!!!!

    The National Guard of the gwb type and years is long gone and for very damned good reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    As an old Air Force vet that saw time in Korea, Viet Nam, Japan, Phillipines and Australia and an old Air National Guard troop that got activated for and served time on Title 10 orders in Grenada, Panama, Saudi Arabia (Persian Gulf I) as well as title 32 missions in Germany, Italy, Spain, Panama, Japan, Korea, Diego Garcia, and countless stateside training missions, I have no objection whatsoever for National Guard troops being mobilized for whatever mission the President and the state governors can agree upon. Get real folks!!!!!!!!!!!

    The National Guard of the gwb type and years is long gone and for very damned good reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I think im just better off not in the military at all that way I don't truly have to worry about it except to debate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rppearso View Post
    I think im just better off not in the military at all that way I don't truly have to worry about it except to debate it.
    That statement applies to a lot of people. Some are made for the life and some are not. Sometimes, like in your case you have to try it out to realize it.

    As long as the Army and Air National Guard are being designed into the defense plans of the nation, not the states, they will be up for international duty. They are a key component of the military. They are the "National" Guard, not the CA or TN Guard. Yes, they fall under the gov's of the state, but that is trumped by the pres and congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFbombloader View Post
    That statement applies to a lot of people. Some are made for the life and some are not. Sometimes, like in your case you have to try it out to realize it.

    As long as the Army and Air National Guard are being designed into the defense plans of the nation, not the states, they will be up for international duty. They are a key component of the military. They are the "National" Guard, not the CA or TN Guard. Yes, they fall under the gov's of the state, but that is trumped by the pres and congress.

    AF
    Its just to bad we dont have any orgainized milita's left because they were all converted to national guard. Because of that fact im glad the supreme court recognized the 2nd amendment as an individual right and not a milita's right since militas dont exist anymore. Of course that does not stop them from banning the guns that really matter when shit hits the fan.

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