No, actually, it has. See above links to real data.Originally Posted by red states rule
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No, actually, it has. See above links to real data.
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Sorry, the enviro wackos are full of it on this one
Next decade 'may see no warming'
By Richard Black
Environment correspondent, BBC News website
The Earth's temperature may stay roughly the same for a decade, as natural climate cycles enter a cooling phase, scientists have predicted.
A new computer model developed by German researchers, reported in the journal Nature, suggests the cooling will counter greenhouse warming.
However, temperatures will again be rising quickly by about 2020, they say. Other climate scientists have welcomed the research, saying it may help societies plan better for the future.
See how modelled temperatures may develop
The key to the new prediction is the natural cycle of ocean temperatures called the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), which is closely related to the warm currents that bring heat from the tropics to the shores of Europe.
The cause of the oscillation is not well understood, but the cycle appears to come round about every 60 to 70 years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7376301.stm
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red states rule: The Earth's temp has not changed in the last 10 years.
SpidermanTUba: No, actually, it has. See above links to real data.
red states rule: Sorry, the enviro wackos are full of it on this one
Next decade 'may see no warming'
By Richard Black
Environment correspondent, BBC News website
You seem to be confused. Your claim was "The Earth's temp has not changed in the last 10 years." As proof of your claim, you have submitted an article written by a journalist in which it is claimed the Earth's temperature might not change for the NEXT ten years. Do you understand the difference between the words "next" and "last" ? If not, I suggest you look them up and familiarize yourself with their usage. "next ten years" and "last ten years" refers to two different sets of ten years.
On the other hand, I supplied real data collected by real scientists over the LAST 10 years to disprove your claim that the Earth's temp has not changed for the LAST ten years.
Last edited by SpidermanTUba; 08-06-2008 at 12:00 PM.
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
Big Chief
If you simply don't trust science as a method of gaining knowledge about the world around you, I'd recommend you stop getting involved with arguments over science, and go attend one of your Flat Earth Society meetings. But as long as you wish to engage yourself in arguments over science, its going to be real scientific observations that are the relevant observations, not things that you make up in your head and wish were true. The Earth's global temperature has been in a rising trend for the last ten years. You were wrong. The data proves it. Get over it.
Another tip when engaging in scientific discussion: when trying to prove your point, use evidence that actually proves your point, instead of evidence that proves another point. Your claim was that the Earth's temperature has not changed for last 10 years. You submit evidence that it might not change for the next 10 years as proof of it. That doesn't make any fucking sense.
Last edited by SpidermanTUba; 08-06-2008 at 12:06 PM.
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You chicken little rants have been disproved
Has global warming stopped?
David Whitehouse
Published 19 December 2007
'The fact is that the global temperature of 2007 is statistically the same as 2006 and every year since 2001'.
Global warming stopped? Surely not. What heresy is this? Haven’t we been told that the science of global warming is settled beyond doubt and that all that’s left to the so-called sceptics is the odd errant glacier that refuses to melt?
Aren’t we told that if we don’t act now rising temperatures will render most of the surface of the Earth uninhabitable within our lifetimes? But as we digest these apocalyptic comments, read the recent IPCC’s Synthesis report that says climate change could become irreversible. Witness the drama at Bali as news emerges that something is not quite right in the global warming camp.
With only few days remaining in 2007, the indications are the global temperature for this year is the same as that for 2006 – there has been no warming over the 12 months.
But is this just a blip in the ever upward trend you may ask? No.
The fact is that the global temperature of 2007 is statistically the same as 2006 as well as every year since 2001. Global warming has, temporarily or permanently, ceased. Temperatures across the world are not increasing as they should according to the fundamental theory behind global warming – the greenhouse effect. Something else is happening and it is vital that we find out what or else we may spend hundreds of billions of pounds needlessly.
In principle the greenhouse effect is simple. Gases like carbon dioxide present in the atmosphere absorb outgoing infrared radiation from the earth’s surface causing some heat to be retained.
Consequently an increase in the atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases from human activities such as burning fossil fuels leads to an enhanced greenhouse effect. Thus the world warms, the climate changes and we are in trouble.
http://www.newstatesman.com/scitech/...ng-temperature
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David Whitehouse uses flawed logic in his analysis. He arbitrarily uses 1998 as his starting year. If he has used 1997, his results would have been completely different. The fact is that for the past decade, for any year you pick in that decade, the 8 year trend has been upward.
http://images.newstatesman.com/artic...0114_graph.jpg
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