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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    “It would be difficult to identify a President who, facing major international and domestic crises, has failed in both as clearly as President Bush,” concluded one respondent. “His domestic policies,” another noted, “have had the cumulative effect of shoring up a semi-permanent aristocracy of capital that dwarfs the aristocracy of land against which the founding fathers rebelled; of encouraging a mindless retreat from science and rationalism; and of crippling the nation’s economic base.”
    I'm sorry, I just had to laugh at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm sorry, I just had to laugh at that.
    I still view SS as one of the greatest things we have done for each other
    I'm still laughing at this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    With the success of SS, it makes you wonder why opposition to universal healthcare is so widespread.
    Did SS succeed when I wasnt looking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Often when debates discuss worst presidents Carter is mentioned, since I was of voting age starting with Nixon .... I always found the Reagan Administration to be the worst till now. (Bush Jr hands down is the worst.) The reason I labeled Reagan the worst was he started the decline of the middle class and reinvented the imperial, aka military, presidency. But Reagan didn't seem to grasp his flag waving would lead to the hubris that made war too easy for some. He did realize quickly his tax policies were voodoo economics. It was the background ideology that grew out of the decline of Russia, Granada, and a Gulf War with a foolish dictator that made so many in power so naive. So it is with interest I read other people's take on this same period and who is the worst. Full disclosure: I voted for Nixon.

    http://myrhaf.blogspot.com/2007/05/w...n-history.html

    "At home Nixon imposed wage and price controls, a purely socialistic intervention in the economy that bumbling Jimmy Carter never could have attempted. He created the Environmental Protection Agency and Occupational Health and Safety Administration, two assaults on liberty that to this day create anti-capitalist regulations that violate rights and hamper the economy. He expanded the welfare state, creating Supplemental Security Income and indexing Social Security to inflation. He created the Drug Enforcement Agency, probably the biggest move in America’s idiotic war on drugs.

    But none of these evils is Nixon’s worst moment. He is responsible for the single most destructive act in the history of the American presidency, an act that has destroyed more wealth and worsened more lives than anything before or since. In 1971, as Wikipedia puts it, he “eradicated the last remnants of the gold standard.” This created the inflation crises of the 1970’s and affects us with “moderate” inflation to this day. The high interest rates that Republicans blame Carter for are actually the result of Nixon’s policies."

    You make some good points there. The EPA is an abomination and needs to be scrapped (Rush and other conservatives are calling for that).
    And the gold standard is something we should be getting back to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    You make some good points there. The EPA is an abomination and needs to be scrapped (Rush and other conservatives are calling for that).
    And the gold standard is something we should be getting back to.
    The gold standard is way beyond a lost cause. On the other issues, well take each as they come.


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    How can any president be worse than Warren Harding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Often when debates discuss worst presidents Carter is mentioned, since I was of voting age starting with Nixon .... I always found the Reagan Administration to be the worst till now. (Bush Jr hands down is the worst.) The reason I labeled Reagan the worst was he started the decline of the middle class and reinvented the imperial, aka military, presidency. But Reagan didn't seem to grasp his flag waving would lead to the hubris that made war too easy for some. He did realize quickly his tax policies were voodoo economics. It was the background ideology that grew out of the decline of Russia, Granada, and a Gulf War with a foolish dictator that made so many in power so naive. So it is with interest I read other people's take on this same period and who is the worst. Full disclosure: I voted for Nixon.

    http://myrhaf.blogspot.com/2007/05/w...n-history.html

    "At home Nixon imposed wage and price controls, a purely socialistic intervention in the economy that bumbling Jimmy Carter never could have attempted. He created the Environmental Protection Agency and Occupational Health and Safety Administration, two assaults on liberty that to this day create anti-capitalist regulations that violate rights and hamper the economy. He expanded the welfare state, creating Supplemental Security Income and indexing Social Security to inflation. He created the Drug Enforcement Agency, probably the biggest move in America’s idiotic war on drugs.

    But none of these evils is Nixon’s worst moment. He is responsible for the single most destructive act in the history of the American presidency, an act that has destroyed more wealth and worsened more lives than anything before or since. In 1971, as Wikipedia puts it, he “eradicated the last remnants of the gold standard.” This created the inflation crises of the 1970’s and affects us with “moderate” inflation to this day. The high interest rates that Republicans blame Carter for are actually the result of Nixon’s policies."
    I'll leave grading the best and worst Presidents up to the historians...those that will see what policies caused what events and how they resulted in good or bad effects on this country and the world....

    but I can grade you as an informed poster, and you, clown, show an ignorance of currents events and recent history that is astounding....to question the EPA, DEA and OSHA as 'assaults on liberty' could be symptoms of serious brain damage....you can't possibly be familiar with the Carter years and how truly alarming they were...


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Often when debates discuss worst presidents Carter is mentioned, since I was of voting age starting with Nixon .... I always found the Reagan Administration to be the worst till now. (Bush Jr hands down is the worst.) The reason I labeled Reagan the worst was he started the decline of the middle class and reinvented the imperial, aka military, presidency. But Reagan didn't seem to grasp his flag waving would lead to the hubris that made war too easy for some. He did realize quickly his tax policies were voodoo economics. It was the background ideology that grew out of the decline of Russia, Granada, and a Gulf War with a foolish dictator that made so many in power so naive. So it is with interest I read other people's take on this same period and who is the worst. Full disclosure: I voted for Nixon.

    http://myrhaf.blogspot.com/2007/05/w...n-history.html

    "At home Nixon imposed wage and price controls, a purely socialistic intervention in the economy that bumbling Jimmy Carter never could have attempted. He created the Environmental Protection Agency and Occupational Health and Safety Administration, two assaults on liberty that to this day create anti-capitalist regulations that violate rights and hamper the economy. He expanded the welfare state, creating Supplemental Security Income and indexing Social Security to inflation. He created the Drug Enforcement Agency, probably the biggest move in America’s idiotic war on drugs.

    But none of these evils is Nixon’s worst moment. He is responsible for the single most destructive act in the history of the American presidency, an act that has destroyed more wealth and worsened more lives than anything before or since. In 1971, as Wikipedia puts it, he “eradicated the last remnants of the gold standard.” This created the inflation crises of the 1970’s and affects us with “moderate” inflation to this day. The high interest rates that Republicans blame Carter for are actually the result of Nixon’s policies."
    [b]I'll leave grading the best and worst Presidents up to the historians...those that will see what policies caused what events and how they resulted in good or bad effects on this country and the world....

    but I can grade you as an informed poster, and you, clown, show an ignorance of currents events and recent history that is astounding....to question the EPA, DEA and OSHA as 'assaults on liberty' could be symptoms of serious brain damage....you can't possibly be familiar with the Carter years and how truly alarming they were...

    Normally I don't even bother addressing your inane rants and I suppose that was the correct action to take
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    How can any president be worse than Warren Harding?
    Peanut Carter. Double digit inflation. Double digit interest rates. Near double digit unemployment

    but Obama will take the title away from him should he win in November


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Peanut Carter. Double digit inflation. Double digit interest rates. Near double digit unemployment

    but Obama will take the title away from him should he win in November
    Richard Nixon was the one who had price caps and WIN buttons. The United States was paying too heavy a price to prop up the Shah of Iran. But we needed the oil and an ethical man was elected and stopped the payoff to prop up the Shah.
    Then we got no ethics raygun and it has been down hill ever since!
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    Richard Nixon was the one who had price caps and WIN buttons. The United States was paying too heavy a price to prop up the Shah of Iran. But we needed the oil and an ethical man was elected and stopped the payoff to prop up the Shah.
    Then we got no ethics raygun and it has been down hill ever since!
    Pity a liberal who spens his days trying to rewrite history, and blaming others for his problems

    Peanut Carter was fired in a humilating defeat. Pres Reagab was reelected with 49 states

    and libs like you have been pissed of about it for 24 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Pity a liberal who spens his days trying to rewrite history, and blaming others for his problems

    Peanut Carter was fired in a humilating defeat. Pres Reagab was reelected with 49 states

    and libs like you have been pissed of about it for 24 years
    I can understand why raygun was elected. Mob mentality and a guy named Rove. Americans have lost their self reliance and are afraid of anything that goes boo in the night. And as the history goes it supports my words.
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    I can understand why raygun was elected. Mob mentality and a guy named Rove. Americans have lost their self reliance and are afraid of anything that goes boo in the night. And as the history goes it supports my words.
    Try people rejected liberalism. I know facing facts is something new for you - but try it sometime






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    Thank you for proving my point of mob mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    Thank you for proving my point of mob mentality.
    Libs can't admit when the voters reject their liberalism. Your is one of the more lame excuses


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