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    Default What if Berg now proves in the USSC that Obama was born in Kenya?

    As I've said before, I believe he won't be able to, because Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, and Berg is firing blanks. That always has been a silly, useless quest.

    But suppose.....

    Berg finally makes it into the Supreme Court, lays out his case, both sides get argued, and about next week, the Supreme Court rules that Obama was indeed born in Kenya and is therefore not Constitutionally eligible to take the oath of office.

    Now what happens?

    As you know, the election last night did NOT elect the next President. It elected the College of Electors, and THEY elect the next Prez.

    So if the College of Electors gets together in two weeks (or whenever it is) to formally elect the President, and find this Supreme Court ruling staring them in the face, what do they do?

    Elect Biden?

    Elect Hillary?

    Elect Michelle?

    Perhaps they will look at each other and say, "Well, each of us is bound by law to vote for the candidate we were sworn to support. For most of us, that is Barack Obama. But now we know that Obama is a non-candidate due to his proven foreign birth, certified by the highest court in the land. So, the Electors who were sworn to vote for him, are similarly disqualified, since they are unable to vote for any qualified candidate. So, the remaining Electors will now vote, and whatever QUALIFIED candidate that gets the most votes, will be the next President."

    That will elect John McCain, of course, since he got the second-most electoral votes, and the first-most are all disqualified.

    Paging Mr. Berg.......

    -----------------------------------------

    P.S. How long do you suppose each voting member of the College of Electors would remain alive, after they did that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    As I've said before, I believe he won't be able to, because Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, and Berg is firing blanks. That always has been a silly, useless quest.

    But suppose.....

    Berg finally makes it into the Supreme Court, lays out his case, both sides get argued, and about next week, the Supreme Court rules that Obama was indeed born in Kenya and is therefore not Constitutionally eligible to take the oath of office.

    Now what happens?

    As you know, the election last night did NOT elect the next President. It elected the College of Electors, and THEY elect the next Prez.

    So if the College of Electors gets together in two weeks (or whenever it is) to formally elect the President, and find this Supreme Court ruling staring them in the face, what do they do?

    Elect Biden?

    Elect Hillary?

    Elect Michelle?

    Perhaps they will look at each other and say, "Well, each of us is bound by law to vote for the candidate we were sworn to support. For most of us, that is Barack Obama. But now we know that Obama is a non-candidate due to his proven foreign birth, certified by the highest court in the land. So, the Electors who were sworn to vote for him, are similarly disqualified, since they are unable to vote for any qualified candidate. So, the remaining Electors will now vote, and whatever QUALIFIED candidate that gets the most votes, will be the next President."

    That will elect John McCain, of course, since he got the second-most electoral votes, and the first-most are all disqualified.

    Paging Mr. Berg.......

    -----------------------------------------

    P.S. How long do you suppose each voting member of the College of Electors would remain alive, after they did that?
    I think the reasonable thing would be either to have Obama become president as the votes demanded and then removing him from office due to this disqualifying factor or by giving the votes to his ticket. Either of those would wind up with a Bidden presidency of course.

    I would prefer an emergency election with a replacement candidate on the Democratic ticket, but that seems like an unreasonable idea to me however much I may like it.
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    i believe biden as vp elect assumes the office and he gets to appoint a vp.....

    say hillary?.....then joe steps down.....and swoooooooooooooooon....we get a clinton again.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    i believe biden as vp elect assumes the office and he gets to appoint a vp.....

    say hillary?.....then joe steps down.....and swoooooooooooooooon....we get a clinton again.....
    Wouldn't Polosi be VP if Biden got bumped to Prez?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Wouldn't Polosi be VP if Biden got bumped to Prez?
    nope .... see ford taking over for nixon and picking ...who was it rockefeller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YamiB. View Post
    I think the reasonable thing would be either to have Obama become president as the votes demanded and then removing him from office due to this disqualifying factor or by giving the votes to his ticket. Either of those would wind up with a Bidden presidency of course.

    I would prefer an emergency election with a replacement candidate on the Democratic ticket, but that seems like an unreasonable idea to me however much I may like it.
    There is no process for removing a President because of a disqualifying factor. Impreachment occurs only with High crimes and Misdemeanors. And even then its impossible.

    No, if there is a constitutional issue to be resolved, it has to be resolved before he is President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Wouldn't Polosi be VP if Biden got bumped to Prez?
    Nah, Pelosi is only President if both President and Vice-President are incapacitated at the same time. If something happens to the President, the Vice President would become President and be allowed to choose a new VP.
    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    nope .... see ford taking over for nixon and picking ...who was it rockefeller?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
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    ford replaced him after he got booted.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    There is no process for removing a President because of a disqualifying factor. Impreachment occurs only with High crimes and Misdemeanors. And even then its impossible.

    No, if there is a constitutional issue to be resolved, it has to be resolved before he is President.
    Yes, I suppose you are right. And it would be too troublesome to have him impeached if it could be done instead by having him removed from the ticket. Though I don't think it would have to be decided before his Presidency, if he was unable to be put in the office and this was found out after the fact then I think it would be justifiable to impeach him on these grounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    As I've said before, I believe he won't be able to, because Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, and Berg is firing blanks. That always has been a silly, useless quest.

    But suppose.....

    Berg finally makes it into the Supreme Court, lays out his case, both sides get argued, and about next week, the Supreme Court rules that Obama was indeed born in Kenya and is therefore not Constitutionally eligible to take the oath of office.

    Now what happens?

    As you know, the election last night did NOT elect the next President. It elected the College of Electors, and THEY elect the next Prez.

    So if the College of Electors gets together in two weeks (or whenever it is) to formally elect the President, and find this Supreme Court ruling staring them in the face, what do they do?

    Elect Biden?

    Elect Hillary?

    Elect Michelle?

    Perhaps they will look at each other and say, "Well, each of us is bound by law to vote for the candidate we were sworn to support. For most of us, that is Barack Obama. But now we know that Obama is a non-candidate due to his proven foreign birth, certified by the highest court in the land. So, the Electors who were sworn to vote for him, are similarly disqualified, since they are unable to vote for any qualified candidate. So, the remaining Electors will now vote, and whatever QUALIFIED candidate that gets the most votes, will be the next President."

    That will elect John McCain, of course, since he got the second-most electoral votes, and the first-most are all disqualified.

    Paging Mr. Berg.......

    -----------------------------------------

    P.S. How long do you suppose each voting member of the College of Electors would remain alive, after they did that?
    Michelle. she'll keep the god damned amerika going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    ford replaced him after he got booted.....
    Yes, yes...I stepped back a bit too far in time..and yer correct it was Rockefeller, he just didn't do anything to remember him for I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
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    Agnew was Nixon's VP who resigned in disgrace. He then picked Ford to replace him. Then Nixon resigned and Ford took the office

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Yes, yes...I stepped back a bit too far in time..and yer correct it was Rockefeller, he just didn't do anything to remember him for I guess.
    he died while "in the saddle" with his mistress. That is pretty memorable!

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    Ok, while I've always been of the mindset that if ONE parent is American, so are their progeny, I've found some legal scholars disagree. Let's say that Obama was born in wherever, not Hawaii. Make it the 'given.' I'd contend that his mother being a US citizen, makes him a natural born, regardless of place of birth.

    Yes, others disagree. Let SCOTUS rule, I think my contention will win, Obama was legal.

    On the topic, I think the 14th amendment should be repealed, which has nothing to do with election, but everything to do with immigration reform.


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