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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanuel View Post
    I think you are wrong.

    Most of us start out as intolerant liberals. Ever watch a baby cry? They are much like liberals. They cry because they are not getting what they want handed to them on a silver spoon or because little Johnny has the toy that they want. They cry because they are not getting their way.

    But, eventually, they all tend to grow up. And when they grow up, they become more conservative. Many, if not most, begin to realize that other people are not going to give them everything they want and yes... as they do finally grow up they turn into those selfish, mean, greedy conservatives that won't give the baby candy because candy will rot the babies teeth!

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    My daughter was born conservative I guess! She didn't cry like that, even as a baby. And then, as she got older, we taught her to share and that the world doesn't revolve around her, and she was okay with it. Never threw fits or anything. Well, she threw terrible tantrums when I had to put her in her carseat....I think she saw me as big government making her wear a safety harness that made her uncomfortable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbumAddict View Post
    I have to disagree. My daughter is in 5th grade and they did a LOT on the election and the issues in her Social Studies class. She felt very intimidated for supporting Palin and we leave in a strongly republican county and city. Go figure.
    Haven't a clue to what happened, though it seems locale.
    My school is in DuPage County, expected and did go R.
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    I do want to say that I was really impressed with the kids at my school (I work there). I designed a computer program and the 3rd-5th graders came down during the Social Studies classes to vote. Logical or not, all of the kids talking about their vote had a reason and it wasn't "My mom likes him" or "he's black". I almost want to right a book of the things they said because they cracked me up. Child views of adult conversations obviously, but at least they were giving it THOUGHT...it gives me hope for the future. If we can inspire our children with a love and passion for government, maybe there is hope...

    A couple of my faves:

    One kid walked into the "booth" chanting "O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma", but sat there for almost a minute deciding who to vote for.

    Another child said he hoped Obama won because then school would be easier. I asked him what he meant and he said that Obama was gonna get rid of the FCAT (standardized test here)

    Two kids were talking and one said "[another student] said that Obama is going to blow up the US" The other kid replied "that doesn't even make sense...he lives here."

    According to another child, Obama is going to kill all the babies and make it so women can never have children again and then there will only be dinosaurs left.

    One of the first kids to vote sat down and quickly asked "which one's the white guy?" Un oh....
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    I disagree. Some people grow up. Not all. Some dont learn from experience. Maybe im just alittle cynical because of the people i work with. But I just dont think its a natural change. I think it happens when you have good parents. and some people do learn from their experience. But the most powerful way to change someones heart comes from the Word of God.
    Well, I did say, "Many, if not most,".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbumAddict View Post
    I have to disagree. My daughter is in 5th grade and they did a LOT on the election and the issues in her Social Studies class. She felt very intimidated for supporting Palin and we leave in a strongly republican county and city. Go figure.
    The socialists have been concentrating on infiltrating the schools for decades now. They have always known that the way to spread their agenda, was by persuading younger people who (a) haven't enough education and experience to know what socialism does to a country, and (b) will still be around long after the present grown-ups are dead and gone.

    Pretty effective tactics, you gotta admit. And your daughter is now their principal target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    The socialists have been concentrating on infiltrating the schools for decades now. They have always known that the way to spread their agenda, was by persuading younger people who (a) haven't enough education and experience to know what socialism does to a country, and (b) will still be around long after the present grown-ups are dead and gone.

    Pretty effective tactics, you gotta admit. And your daughter is now their principal target.
    Wow. Pretty strong statements for someone who knows nothing about my daughter's school. Our school system is only 4 years old and I'm fairly certain there is no infiltration yet from political activitists of any kind. I was mostly making the point that our city/county political climate wasn't really reflected in our school. I think the reason is that our city is a majority of retirees that are more conservative, but the kids in school are obviously from younger families which tend to be more liberal. That's all.

    Her "intimidation" (if you want to call it that) was simply from being in the minority. Not from anything like what the 14 year old experienced in the article, so my second point would simply be that when your in the minority on any issue, that alone can feel a little intimidating...you sort of start off on the defensive.
    Last edited by AlbumAddict; 11-15-2008 at 08:44 AM.
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