The green house effect can be caused by any number of things. A major volcanic eruption will have the greenhouse effect. In fact one volcano can do more to effect the atmosphere than all the people on earth in a hundred years. Man's affect on this planet is about as much as an ant colony affects your yard.
You can worry and fret about it all you want, it won't change a thing. Nature does what nature does and mankind is just stuck with the results. But if you want to shell out money to a bunch of greenie priests and prophets of doom, then go for it.
And so far no one has explained to me how man is affecting global warming on Mars.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
Just what "bull" do you attribute to Al Gore, Des?
I think he makes a helluva lot of sense and apparently the Nobel Prize scholars agree. These imbeciles around here might choose to discount his theories but I've never seen a credible refutation of any of them here.
Psychoblues
I think we could have some effect upon the climate but nothing compared to what it can, will, and does do on it's own. Man didn't cause the snowball earth, the first ice ages, the volcanic winters, the global warming that spawned the large dinosours. Earth is going to be destroyed one day regardless. Eventually leaving the planet and populating other worlds is our only hope for long term survival as a species.
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)
Al Gore is more interested in the idea of selling carbon credits, movies, and books than doing anything about any issues he perceives.
Al Gores theories are borrowed, they are not his own. He takes the ideas and uses fear about his estimated outcome to try and sell something. He's a salesman, not a scientest. A politician. He is a big reason many otherwise accepting people would understand what's going on with the climate.
Do you really think carbon credits do anything for the enviroment or our attitude, even in a relatively small way?
yep.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)
First of all, leaving the planet and populating other worlds is not even remotely do-able right now. Some of the biggest reasons for the space program are not for the purposes of furthering "colonization science", but have more earthly links.
Ice ages, volcanic winters, the gradual shift in gases in the atmosphere...they were all caused or switched on by something relatively small in relation to the earth. People are a pretty big and powerful force on this planet.
responce to steph.
it is NOT "pretty clear" that we are accelerating it....if you look at the historical record of temperatures from ice core samples it appears that we are pretty much on track with what has been happening cyclically for the last 450k years.....if anything, we are ready to begin a plunge into another ice age.....and, if you look at the data for just the last ten or twenty years, that may already have begun.....
...full immersion.....