Global Warming- how can you deny it?

[actsnoblemartin]

I agree man has a lot to do with it, but you really believe man is solely responsible or close to that?

I think man could do more, but im not convinced its solely his fault

we do have a responsibility to take care of the earth though.

Based on observable climate criterion recorded both pre and during the current industrial age I find it difficult to believe that mankind is not largely if not completely responsible for the current global environmental crises, marteen.




To excuse the climate changes that we have seen in the last few years as indicative of only similar natural occurances that took thousands of years to materialize is simply astounding to me. Air quality, water quality and overall world temperature quality is deteriorating in measures never before encountered or should be accepted in any stretch of ignorant imagination.

As humans and especially as Americans we have every responsibility to reverse this trend and lead the world in doing the same. Until now, it seems the rest of the world is doing better in the leadership department on this issue.



Psychoblues

[avatar4321]

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...imate_100.html

There are many scientific and health organizations, enviromental, endangered species, etc...who keep compiling evidence that the earths temperature is indeed rising and the effects are begining to become more evident.

I don't understand those who insist a freak snowstorm negates the idea that the earths temperature is rising. It would seem reasonable to expect this to happen slowly.

How can you deny all this information?

Pretty easy. Its not true. The tempature has been going down for the last 10 years. When the hottest year was ten years ago its kind of difficult to honestly argue that the world is warming up.

[actsnoblemartin]

I think as americans we do have a moral responsibility to try and lead on this issue.

we should do everything we can in our power to be good stewards of the earth, and to try and solve the problems facing our earth, not just said topic, but deforestation , and other issues.

we need rational dicussions not

lets solve global warming

response: your an idiot, global warming is fake

being skeptical is one thing, being an ass is not

lets here some ideas on how you would solve climate change, and other issues facing our earth

[actsnoblemartin]

i think we're stuck on the word warming

their is a machine, that can take out 1 ton of co2, i forget the whole story but if we can land on the moon, im sure everyone can agree we can take better care of our earth, which should be the real point of this, not whether the earth is too warm or too cold.

little steps make a big difference

Pretty easy. Its not true. The tempature has been going down for the last 10 years. When the hottest year was ten years ago its kind of difficult to honestly argue that the world is warming up.

[avatar4321]

I think as americans we do have a moral responsibility to try and lead on this issue.

we should do everything we can in our power to be good stewards of the earth, and to try and solve the problems facing our earth, not just said topic, but deforestation , and other issues.

we need rational dicussions not

lets solve global warming

response: your an idiot, global warming is fake

being skeptical is one thing, being an ass is not

lets here some ideas on how you would solve climate change, and other issues facing our earth

There isnt an issue to lead on. Its phoney. Its the ultimate political issue. No matter what you do, you cant prove one way or another whether it works. Its a crisis and if you can get people to believe it they will let you do whatever you want to "fix it".

Isnt it odd that all the "solutions" for global warming are the same socialist policies that have already failed a billion times over the past century and only profit the people making the laws?

The arrogance to assume that man can change the climate is dumbfounding. Lets say its true? Lets say the world warms up. Great! Warmer tempatures. More land to farm on. More food. Not seeing a downside. We adapt. That's the beauty of being a human being. We arent destroying the world. We are simply destroying ourselves.

[avatar4321]

i think we're stuck on the word warming

their is a machine, that can take out 1 ton of co2, i forget the whole story but if we can land on the moon, im sure everyone can agree we can take better care of our earth, which should be the real point of this, not whether the earth is too warm or too cold.

little steps make a big difference

If the world isnt warming, then what the hell does the CO2 level matter? CO2 is a natural compound. And its dangerous to discuss eliminating it because we exhale it. Its an excuse to start executing people who you dont like. "We have to kill them to stop global warming".

[actsnoblemartin]

profound, and i agree completely.

I simply see no evidence that global warming exists

There isnt an issue to lead on. Its phoney. Its the ultimate political issue. No matter what you do, you cant prove one way or another whether it works. Its a crisis and if you can get people to believe it they will let you do whatever you want to "fix it".

Isnt it odd that all the "solutions" for global warming are the same socialist policies that have already failed a billion times over the past century and only profit the people making the laws?

The arrogance to assume that man can change the climate is dumbfounding. Lets say its true? Lets say the world warms up. Great! Warmer tempatures. More land to farm on. More food. Not seeing a downside. We adapt. That's the beauty of being a human being. We arent destroying the world. We are simply destroying ourselves.

[actsnoblemartin]

brilliant job, reminding me why i am skeptical of global warming in the first place.

I simply dont believe in it.

If the world isnt warming, then what the hell does the CO2 level matter? CO2 is a natural compound. And its dangerous to discuss eliminating it because we exhale it. Its an excuse to start executing people who you dont like. "We have to kill them to stop global warming".

[crin63]

Its pretty simple actually. Temperatures and climate changes are cyclical. Did you not read the articles about there not being enough greenhouse gasses a couple weeks ago and the coming ice age because of it? It was in the UK Guardian I believe.

I'm all for people reducing their overhead by using more energy efficient appliances, lighting and cars but global warming is all about politics and power, nothing more. Its been a great fund raising tool for the leftists and it's going to be used as a tool limit and/or take away our freedoms.

[Des]

brilliant job, reminding me why i am skeptical of global warming in the first place.

I simply dont believe in it.

Methane contrubutes just as much, if not more, to a rising base temperature as co2.

[actsnoblemartin]

Methane contrubutes just as much, if not more, to a rising base temperature as co2.

what the heck is methane?

[Des]

Its pretty simple actually. Temperatures and climate changes are cyclical. Did you not read the articles about there not being enough greenhouse gasses a couple weeks ago and the coming ice age because of it? It was in the UK Guardian I believe.

I'm all for people reducing their overhead by using more energy efficient appliances, lighting and cars but global warming is all about politics and power, nothing more. Its been a great fund raising tool for the leftists and it's going to be used as a tool limit and/or take away our freedoms.

Yes and no.

The whole "global warming" issue is like us dealing with terrorism in that both exist, but both can also be used to manipulate or frighten the populace in order to gain more control. Just because there are people profiting and taking advantage of climate change does not mean it isn't happening.

[Des]

what the heck is methane?

kidding, right?

[avatar4321]

Yes and no.

The whole "global warming" issue is like us dealing with terrorism in that both exist, but both can also be used to manipulate or frighten the populace in order to gain more control. Just because there are people profiting and taking advantage of climate change does not mean it isn't happening.

No, you are right. It's the decreasing tempatures for the last 10 years that are demonstrating that global warming isnt happening.

[Des]

No, you are right. It's the decreasing tempatures for the last 10 years that are demonstrating that global warming isnt happening.

It all depends where the temperatures decrease, that's what the positive feedback effect is. If temperatures increase only in certain vulnerable areas, like the permafrost regions, it would have some serious effects on the climate.