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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    no it was excellent

    Errrrr.......................jeopardy at 3:00, jeopardy at 3:00 errrrrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    DCCC Chairman Chris Van Hollen Condemns Rush Limbaugh’s Comment Hoping President Obama Fails

    DCCC Chairman Chris Van Hollen released the following statement in response to conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh's outrageous remark saying that he ‘hopes' President Obama fails.

    "Rush Limbaugh's reprehensible remark that he ‘hopes' President Obama fails to meet the extraordinary economic challenges Americas face has no place in the public discourse.

    "Mr. Limbaugh's comments politicize the economic struggle of millions of hard working Americans. With the unemployment rate over seven percent, today's news that 62,000 more Americans filed for unemployment benefits last week, and millions of Americans struggling to keep their health care and homes, all Americans, regardless of their ideology, hope that President Obama succeeds in getting people back to work and turning our economy around."


    http://dccc.org/blog/archives/dccc_c..._hoping_presi/

    Excuse me Mr Hollen, Rush's comment (which you took out of context) does belong in the public discourse - and the First Amendment says so

    Dems are constantly trying to silence those who are pointing out how Dems are only going to make things worse with their insane spending
    Seems the Bush admin. and most Republicans didn't think the first amendment meant shit when it came to Valerie Plame and her husband.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    I produced it, you ignored it. Whether it was little or alot of experience he certainly had more that Johnny Lib.................or else he would not have been elected.

    Care to explain how a guy who you claim has zero experience on just about everything got elected in a landslide?
    Did you post something other then this? Or did we miss it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Did you post something other then this? Or did we miss it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
    Nope that was it, oh and the fact that he won the election in the most desperate economic times since the great depression proves he has the experience.

    You should know better, I don't fall for the "ignore the obvious" bullshit from RINOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Nope that was it, oh and the fact that he won the election in the most desperate economic times since the great depression proves he has the experience.

    You should know better, I don't fall for the "ignore the obvious" bullshit from RINOS.
    and this is his "solution" to bring the economy back. His "experience" is showing t

    No wonder support for the bill is falling


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    “We Will Ban All Earmarks In The Recovery Package.”
    - Barack Obama, Press Conference, 1/6/09

    Here are just six points in the bill:

    $20 million “for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers.” (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “20,000,000 for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers)

    $400 million for STD prevention (Pg. 60 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “CDC estimates that a proximately 19 million new STD infections occur annually in the United States …The Committee has included $400,000,000 for testing and prevention of these conditions.”)

    $25 million to rehabilitate off-roading (ATV) trails (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “$25,000,000 is for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes, and $20,000,000 is for trail maintenance and restoration”)

    $34 million to remodel the Department of Commerce HQ (Pg. 15 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: $34,000,000 for the Department of Commerce renovation and modernization”)

    $70 million to “Support Supercomputing Activities” for climate research (Pgs. 14-15 of Senate Appropriations Committee Report: $70,000,000 is directed to specifically support supercomputing activities, especially as they relate to climate research)

    $150 million for honey bee insurance (Pg. 102 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “The Secretary shall use up to $ 50,000,000 per year, and $150,000,000 in the case of 2009, from the Trust Fund to provide emergency relief to eligible producers of livestock, honey bees, and farm-raised fish to aid in the reduction of losses due to disease, adverse weather, or other conditions, such as blizzards and wildfires, as determined by the Secretary”)

    http://rightsoup.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    and this is his "solution" to bring the economy back. His "experience" is showing t

    No wonder support for the bill is falling


    snip

    “We Will Ban All Earmarks In The Recovery Package.”
    - Barack Obama, Press Conference, 1/6/09

    Here are just six points in the bill:

    $20 million “for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers.” (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “20,000,000 for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers)

    $400 million for STD prevention (Pg. 60 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “CDC estimates that a proximately 19 million new STD infections occur annually in the United States …The Committee has included $400,000,000 for testing and prevention of these conditions.”)

    $25 million to rehabilitate off-roading (ATV) trails (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “$25,000,000 is for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes, and $20,000,000 is for trail maintenance and restoration”)

    $34 million to remodel the Department of Commerce HQ (Pg. 15 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: $34,000,000 for the Department of Commerce renovation and modernization”)

    $70 million to “Support Supercomputing Activities” for climate research (Pgs. 14-15 of Senate Appropriations Committee Report: $70,000,000 is directed to specifically support supercomputing activities, especially as they relate to climate research)

    $150 million for honey bee insurance (Pg. 102 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: “The Secretary shall use up to $ 50,000,000 per year, and $150,000,000 in the case of 2009, from the Trust Fund to provide emergency relief to eligible producers of livestock, honey bees, and farm-raised fish to aid in the reduction of losses due to disease, adverse weather, or other conditions, such as blizzards and wildfires, as determined by the Secretary”)

    http://rightsoup.com/
    Doesn't matter, he won, Dems have all the power, it will get passed eventually then we will see it it fails or not.

    Can't get any worse than what Bush and Republicans have left us with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Doesn't matter, he won, Dems have all the power, it will get passed eventually then we will see it it fails or not.

    Can't get any worse than what Bush and Republicans have left us with.
    It doesn't matter that Obama promised no pork in the bill?

    It doesn't matter the bill is nearly 1/3 the entire Federal budget?

    It doesn't matter all of it will add to the deficit?

    It doesn't matter that this level of spending will cause inflation to come back?

    With all Republicans voting against the bill, Dems will own it. But they will try to blame Pres Bush anyway


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    It doesn't matter that Obama promised no pork in the bill?

    It doesn't matter the bill is nearly 1/3 the entire Federal budget?

    It doesn't matter all of it will add to the deficit?

    It doesn't matter that this level of spending will cause inflation to come back?

    With all Republicans voting against the bill, Dems will own it. But they will try to blame Pres Bush anyway
    Could you link me to the quote where the president specifically "promised pork"? The rest of America and I must've missed this.

    What you call pork most of Americans call "job creation".

    Inflation is not a concern, actually if you knew a fucking thing about economics "deflation" is more of a concern right now.

    I guess you must've conveniently forgotten all the pork TARP bullshit given to the bush admin. and the used to pay off CEO bonuses......all of which went to the deficit, a deficit created by Republicans when that had inherited a surplus from Demos in 2000.

    Face it, it would take Obama 4 terms to outspend what W did in 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Could you link me to the quote where the president specifically "promised pork"? The rest of America and I must've missed this.

    What you call pork most of Americans call "job creation".

    Inflation is not a concern, actually if you knew a fucking thing about economics "deflation" is more of a concern right now.

    I guess you must've conveniently forgotten all the pork TARP bullshit given to the bush admin. and the used to pay off CEO bonuses......all of which went to the deficit, a deficit created by Republicans when that had inherited a surplus from Demos in 2000.

    Face it, it would take Obama 4 terms to outspend what W did in 2.
    I will do better then a link - here is the video of the press conference

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    IF this pork bill "creates" the 4 million jobs Pres Obama said it will - it will cost taxpayers $230,000 per job

    OCA, if the US keeps printing the money at this rate, inflation will happen

    As far as the TARP - Dems approved it and added huge amounts of pork to it as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Nope that was it, oh and the fact that he won the election in the most desperate economic times since the great depression proves he has the experience.
    The fact that he won an election means nothing about his experience. It only means that more people voted for him than for McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    The fact that he won an election means nothing about his experience. It only means that more people voted for him than for McCain.

    experience is overrated. I would put wisdom as a much more valuable trait, along with vision, leadership, the ability to inspire, and the ability to surround oneself with intelligent advisors.

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    wisdom
    noun
    Synonyms:
    ...
    experience,
    ...

    Since you like copying from dictionaries, how about a Thesaurus?

    Looks like wisdom and experience are synonymous. Makes sense- no better way to gain wisdom than through experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    experience is overrated. I would put wisdom as a much more valuable trait, along with vision, leadership, the ability to inspire, and the ability to surround oneself with intelligent advisors.
    you like obama because, like you, obama breaks promises
    Last edited by Yurt; 01-29-2009 at 09:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    wisdom
    noun
    Synonyms:
    ...
    experience,
    ...

    Since you like copying from dictionaries, how about a Thesaurus?

    Looks like wisdom and experience are synonymous. Makes sense- no better way to gain wisdom than through experience.
    true, however, experience is not always necessary for wisdom nor does experience always equate with wisdom. out of the mouth of babes....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    you like obama, because like you, obama breaks promises

    That is incorrect. I don't break promises, and, in any case, I have never promised you anything. I am optimistic about our president because he has wisdom, leadership, vision, the ability to inspire, and the ability to surround himself with intelligent advisors.

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