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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    false logic. Obama decided to vote for FISA... he weighed the information before him and decided to change his mind. Others decided differently. Nothing suggests that Obama did not share... just that he came to a different conclusion.

    my scenario is far superior to yours. he promised he would vote against, then voted for it, NEVER explained why, NEVER shared his reasons...you have to pull a massive ASSumption to get to your logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    my scenario is far superior to yours. he promised he would vote against, then voted for it, NEVER explained why, NEVER shared his reasons...you have to pull a massive ASSumption to get to your logic.
    because he did not share his reasons with the public does not mean that he did not share his reasons with his colleagues. I have no idea why he changed his mind and neither do you. The fact remains: the mere fact that Obama voted one way and other democrats voted another does not prove that Obama KNEW anything they did not know or HID anything from them, as you have suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    wow, identical "..." as well...



    you had better do better to hide your new identity
    "tap dancing" is a fairly common idiomatic expression.

    I would suggest that you drop this silliness about me being someone else and try debating me instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    "tap dancing" is a fairly common idiomatic expression.

    I would suggest that you drop this silliness about me being someone else and try debating me instead.
    you used the same "..." as well.

    you must do better, you must really get more into this new identity, it is getting boring showing old posts that look identical to yours....alas, it proves me right though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    because he did not share his reasons with the public does not mean that he did not share his reasons with his colleagues. I have no idea why he changed his mind and neither do you. The fact remains: the mere fact that Obama voted one way and other democrats voted another does not prove that Obama KNEW anything they did not know or HID anything from them, as you have suggested.
    well if you DON'T KNOW, then you can be quiet now

    thank you for proving me right...again

    obama also does not share this secret knowledge with the american people, instead allowing the dems to continue bashing bush over FISA. obama and yourself have proven that party is more important than country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    you used the same "..." as well.

    you must do better, you must really get more into this new identity, it is getting boring showing old posts that look identical to yours....alas, it proves me right though.
    why not stop this silliness and talk issues instead of trying to suggest that I am someone I am not?

    Again...why do you continue to avoid questions posed to you? are you afraid of answering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    why not stop this silliness and talk issues instead of trying to suggest that I am someone I am not?

    Again...why do you continue to avoid questions posed to you? are you afraid of answering?
    why do you lie about who you are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    why do you lie about who you are?
    I would like to know as well

    Maybe he will confess and tell us the truth

    I'll wait


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    why do you lie about who you are?
    I am not lying. Why do you hide behind this fantasy that I am someone else to avoid talking about the issues that I clearly put forward?

    again: who was your first choice for president out of the republican field of candidates, and who did you vote for in November? Why, oh why do you continue to run away from that question???
    Last edited by moderate democrat; 01-30-2009 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    I am not lying. Why do you hide behind this fantasy that I am someone else to avoid talking about the issues that I clearly put forward?

    again: who was your first choice for president out of the republican field of candidates, and who did you vote for in November? Why, oh why do you continue to run away from that question???
    i've avoided nothing and debated you on any issue i want....

    you know my hometown, you proved you are lying about who you are...

    it really doesn't matter who my first choice is or was, it was never about me, it was about you being a hypocrite regarding RSR. but since you are so obsessed about it, i never had a first choice. i didn't really know enough about anyone of them to make a choice. and what i did learn, never convinced me to vote for them... i voted for mccain for the sole reason that obama is worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    i've avoided nothing and debated you on any issue i want....

    you know my hometown, you proved you are lying about who you are...

    it really doesn't matter who my first choice is or was, it was never about me, it was about you being a hypocrite regarding RSR. but since you are so obsessed about it, i never had a first choice. i didn't really know enough about anyone of them to make a choice. and what i did learn, never convinced me to vote for them... i voted for mccain for the sole reason that obama is worse.

    party over country. I knew it. thanks for proving my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    false logic. Obama decided to vote for FISA... he weighed the information before him and decided to change his mind. Others decided differently. Nothing suggests that Obama did not share... just that he came to a different conclusion.
    Sooo, who was right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    party over country. I knew it. thanks for proving my point.
    whatever mfm...

    i voted for the other guy because i didn't like your guy and that makes me "party" over country....you aren't to bright...but you are good liar

    it was so easy manipulating you and getting you to reveal yourself, thanks for the fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Sooo, who was right?
    now that is a good question!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    now that is a good question!
    Thank you. Can't wait for the answer for moderate democrat.


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