OBAMA says: You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh

[OCA]

I answered your question Mike on taxes and spending - now you branch out in other areas

BTW, here is more of the pork you said was not in the bill. Another great job creator eh?

Washington, Jan 23 - The House Democrats’ trillion dollar spending bill, approved on January 21 by the Appropriations Committee and headed to the House floor next week for a vote, could open billions of taxpayer dollars to left-wing groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). ACORN has been accused of perpetrating voter registration fraud numerous times in the last several elections; is reportedly under federal investigation; and played a key role in the irresponsible schemes that caused a financial meltdown that has cost American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars since last fall.

House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and other Republicans are asking a simple question: what does this have to do with job creation? Are Congressional Democrats really going to borrow money from our children and grandchildren to give handouts to ACORN in the name of economic “stimulus?”

Incredibly, the Democrats’ bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a $4.19 billion pot of money for “neighborhood stabilization activities.” Funds for this purpose were authorized in the Housing and Economic Recovery Act, signed into law in 2008. However, these funds were limited to state and local governments. Now House Democrats are taking the unprecedented step of making ACORN and other groups eligible for these funds:

“For a further additional amount for ‘Community Development Fund,’$4,190,000,000, to be used for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110–289), of which—

“(1) not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition for which eligible entities shall be States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities[.]”

“(2) up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance […]”
The House Democrats’ trillion dollar spending bill also includes $1 billion for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program. CDBG funds are given by the federal government to state and local governments which often contract with nonprofits for services related to the purpose of the grant


http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...ackage-is.html

Nah actually you didn't, you dodged the deficits that come along with it, saying some bullshit about how its all congress's fault like Reagan didn't have a veto pen.

BTW, Bush outspent both Reagan and Clinton combined.

Awesome! More fucking job creation! Love ittttttttttttttttttttttt!

Please do not dodge this question again: do you support the Republican plan of pay CEO bonuses and do nothing else?

[red states rule]

Nah actually you didn't, you dodged the deficits that come along with it, saying some bullshit about how its all congress's fault like Reagan didn't have a veto pen.

BTW, Bush outspent both Reagan and Clinton combined.

Awesome! More fucking job creation! Love ittttttttttttttttttttttt!

Please do not dodge this question again: do you support the Republican plan of pay CEO bonuses and do nothing else?

I addressed the deficits - you might want to take a remedial reading class

As far as the bonuses, I find it funny Obama rants about the those (the average bonus is around $100,000) while he wants to spend $1 trillion in pork

Obama & Dem Reasoning:

Wall Street Bonuses = Shameful

Payments to Illegal Aliens, people who don't pay taxes, and political allies = Stimulus

Any questions?

[Yurt]

the same guy who said clinton would win....

i'll buy trust, but not experience. even mfm, er moderate democrat, said obama's experience didn't matter so much as character. people voted against bush more than they voted for obama. the simple fact is, obama did not have more experience. if he did, you could easily cite to it.

obama himself, when asked if he had more economic experience than palin, cited his campaign as experience and the large budge his campaign had. now thats funny! couldn't cite anything, so he cites the fact he is running for office as his experience....

you've missed this twice...

[OCA]

I addressed the deficits - you might want to take a remedial reading class

As far as the bonuses, I find it funny Obama rants about the those (the average bonus is around $100,000) while he wants to spend $1 trillion in pork

Obama & Dem Reasoning:

Wall Street Bonuses = Shameful

Payments to Illegal Aliens, people who don't pay taxes, and political allies = Stimulus

Any questions?

Well I would have questions...............if you were honest about anything.

You know damn well you are just repeating untruthful rhetoric.

[red states rule]

Well I would have questions...............if you were honest about anything.

You know damn well you are just repeating untruthful rhetoric.

I am posting facts that you are unable to counter. Your bruised ego and temper have taken over Mike - and your debate skills have taken a back seat

Now, you are posting like a liberal hack out of the MFM (i.e moderate democrat) mold

[OCA]

I am posting facts that you are unable to counter. Your bruised ego and temper have taken over Mike - and your debate skills have taken a back seat

Now, you are posting like a liberal hack out of the MFM (i.e moderate democrat) mold

Uhhh first of all I don't remember ever giving you permission to use my real name on the board so refrain from doing that in the future.

Second of all can you point out the fact of " the pork to illegal aliens?" or is this more of your bullshit?

[red states rule]

Uhhh first of all I don't remember ever giving you permission to use my real name on the board so refrain from doing that in the future.

Second of all can you point out the fact of " the pork to illegal aliens?" or is this more of your bullshit?

Eh, Jim has used it many times - but I will honor your request.

As far as the illegals

WASHINGTON (AP) - The $800 billion-plus economic stimulus measure making its way through Congress could steer government checks to illegal immigrants, a top Republican congressional official asserted Thursday.
The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.

Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.

A revolt among GOP conservatives to similar provisions of a 2008 economic stimulus bill, which sent rebate checks to most wage earners, forced Democratic congressional leaders to add stricter eligibility requirements. That legislation, enacted in February 2008, required that people have valid Social Security numbers in order to get checks.

The GOP official voiced concerns about the latest economic aid measure on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[OCA]

Eh, Jim has used it many times - but I will honor your request.

As far as the illegals

WASHINGTON (AP) - The $800 billion-plus economic stimulus measure making its way through Congress could steer government checks to illegal immigrants, a top Republican congressional official asserted Thursday.
The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.

Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.

A revolt among GOP conservatives to similar provisions of a 2008 economic stimulus bill, which sent rebate checks to most wage earners, forced Democratic congressional leaders to add stricter eligibility requirements. That legislation, enacted in February 2008, required that people have valid Social Security numbers in order to get checks.

The GOP official voiced concerns about the latest economic aid measure on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

That was Jimmy, not you.

Awesome! They worked, they contributed to their respective local economies so they should get something back unlike the millions of Americans born on this soil who are capable of work but choose to be on the dole.

I say kudos to President Obama and the Dem Congress!

[red states rule]

That was Jimmy, not you.

Awesome! They worked, they contributed to their respective local economies so they should get something back unlike the millions of Americans born on this soil who are capable of work but choose to be on the dole.

I say kudos to President Obama and the Dem Congress!

So now it is "awesome" and not bullshit, eh?

Well the Dems are handing out the welfare OCA

Another "stimulus" secret is that some $252 billion is for income-transfer payments -- that is, not investments that arguably help everyone, but cash or benefits to individuals for doing nothing at all. There's $81 billion for Medicaid, $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits, $20 billion for food stamps, and $83 billion for the earned income credit for people who don't pay income tax. While some of that may be justified to help poorer Americans ride out the recession, they aren't job creators.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

[OCA]

So now it is "awesome" and not bullshit, eh?

Well the Dems are handing out the welfare OCA

Another "stimulus" secret is that some $252 billion is for income-transfer payments -- that is, not investments that arguably help everyone, but cash or benefits to individuals for doing nothing at all. There's $81 billion for Medicaid, $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits, $20 billion for food stamps, and $83 billion for the earned income credit for people who don't pay income tax. While some of that may be justified to help poorer Americans ride out the recession, they aren't job creators.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

So getting back what you overpaid or getting something for just contributing to the fucking economy is welfare, eh? Thats what sucks about conservatism, no common sense.

[red states rule]

So getting back what you overpaid or getting something for just contributing to the fucking economy is welfare, eh? Thats what sucks about conservatism, no common sense.

The point is, Obama is giving income tax refunds to people who (!) do not pay income taxes, and (2) US taxpayer money to poeople who are in the country illegally

A couple years ago, OCA the conservative would be pissed off about this

Now OCA the liberal cheers it on

And you said there was no prok in this bill, and Obama never promised there would be no prom in it

My how the "mighty" have falled

[OCA]

The point is, Obama is giving income tax refunds to people who (!) do not pay income taxes, and (2) US taxpayer money to poeople who are in the country illegally

A couple years ago, OCA the conservative would be pissed off about this

Now OCA the liberal cheers it on

And you said there was no prok in this bill, and Obama never promised there would be no prom in it

My how the "mighty" have falled

Nope, wrong again.

OCA was always for amnesty, why not have amnesty for the people who do the work Americans won't do?

BTW, that is coming soon.....guess which Repub senator will vote along with Demos?

[red states rule]

Nope, wrong again.

OCA was always for amnesty, why not have amnesty for the people who do the work Americans won't do?

BTW, that is coming soon.....guess which Repub senator will vote along with Demos?

and Pres Reagan thought the same thing - and no the problem is much worse. Rewarding bad behaviour will only get you more bad behaviour

Bottom line is, illegals put a severe drain on the local, state, and federal budget. Look at CA if you want to see how much damage. Now even US citizens can't get their tax refunds because the state is out of money

Now Obama wants to give more money.

[OCA]

and Pres Reagan thought the same thing - and no the problem is much worse. Rewarding bad behaviour will only get you more bad behaviour

Bottom line is, illegals put a severe drain on the local, state, and federal budget. Look at CA if you want to see how much damage. Now even US citizens can't get their tax refunds because the state is out of money

Now Obama wants to give more money.

Reagan had the right idea, he knew they were the backbone of the economy along with the middle class.

I think the problem is much better.

[red states rule]

Reagan had the right idea, he knew they were the backbone of the economy along with the middle class.

I think the problem is much better.

Pres Reagan gave amnesity to what 2.7 million?

Now there are over 20 million and you say the problem is better??????