The Ark

[PostmodernProphet]

Again with the reading disorder...there is a mountain of evidence that prior to 10,000 years ago man was a hunter/gatherer not a farmer. Your "clear" thought would have us believe that 200,000 years ago, Eve gave birth to a farmer and 190,000 years of farming went by without a trace...riggghhht!

you still haven't answered my question......how much archeological evidence do you expect would be left by the early stages of agriculture.....

a man figures out wheat he finds growing tastes good....he takes some home.....some gets dropped around his hut....he notices it growing the next year.....he starts intentionally dropping some close to home....he uses wooden tools......how long before he needs to use something that is sturdy enough to leave a trace behind more than, oh twenty/thirty years or so.......

[DannyR]

you still haven't answered my question......how much archeological evidence do you expect would be left by the early stages of agriculture.

quite a bit actually.

II. Evidence utilized to study the origin of agriculture

    A. Studying the origin of agriculture is an archaeological endeavor, the evidence utilized includes:

        1. seeds, pollen grains, and fragments of plants tell what types of plants were associated with the culture and perhaps being eaten and cultivated
        2. animal bones, feathers, shells or other remnants: how much of the diet was animal based, which animals
        3. coprolites * fossilized feces. Can be analyzed to see what types of foods were in the diet (seeds, plant fragments) and how eaten (cooked vs. raw)
        4. tools which suggest cultivation, storage, grinding or threshing
        5. drawings (art) may show plants and animals important in culture
        6. writings
        7. radiocarbon dating used to determine dates/ages of archaeological materials, C14 half life 5,730 years

[Missileman]

you still haven't answered my question......how much archeological evidence do you expect would be left by the early stages of agriculture.....

It left enough for archeologists to determine the advent of agriculture occurred around 10,000 years ago. I'm quite certain that they accounted for degradeable implements in their determination.

a man figures out wheat he finds growing tastes good....he takes some home.....some gets dropped around his hut....he notices it growing the next year.....he starts intentionally dropping some close to home....he uses wooden tools......how long before he needs to use something that is sturdy enough to leave a trace behind more than, oh twenty/thirty years or so.......

You must think the pre-jews a race of starving morons to think that after 190,000 years the best they can come up with is scratching the ground with a stick to grow a couple plants.

[PostmodernProphet]

You must think the pre-jews a race of starving morons to think that after 190,000 years the best they can come up with is scratching the ground with a stick to grow a couple plants.

as opposed to thinking they can't be engaged in farming unless you find the pottery shards of containers they used to store their grain?

I'm quite certain that they accounted for degradeable implements in their determination.

and for those of us who don't share your faith assumptions?.....

[Missileman]

as opposed to thinking they can't be engaged in farming unless you find the pottery shards of containers they used to store their grain?

No, knowing they weren't engaged in farming because the archeological evidence says they were engaged in hunting and gathering.

and for those of us who don't share your faith assumptions?.....

The dating of agriculture has nothing to do with faith or assumptions. Archeologists base their determination on solid scientific evidence...a concept so beyond your reasoning capability that I just wasted the time it took to write it.

[PostmodernProphet]

The dating of agriculture has nothing to do with faith or assumptions. Archeologists base their determination on solid scientific evidence...a concept so beyond your reasoning capability that I just wasted the time it took to write it.

lol......

[eighballsidepocket]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread.

It's become very, very stupid, and boring.........

It's totally drifted off into......?

[PostmodernProphet]

a side pocket?