Liberty is the greatest measure of equality.
Economic Left/Right: 9.38, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51
Sola Scriptura | Soli Deo Gloria | Solo Christo | Sola Gratia | Sola Fide
crickets chirping.................................
If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!
A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!
If you missed the reference by aggie then you probably would not appreciate the explanation either. Crickets chirping indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Psychoblues
Last edited by 5stringJeff; 04-15-2009 at 10:09 PM.
Sorry, didn't see this before. The most obvious example would be the Libertarian Party's unmitigated support for the authoritarian institutions that evolve through the unchecked establishment of capitalism (since "free markets" are a textbook fantasy), as well as a cult-like obsession with the Austrian school of economics and the general inadequacy of the Misesian approach. This is obviously a distressing perversion of legitimate libertarianism (originally formed by anarcho-socialists), and serves to effectively "unite contradiction."
The history of human thought recalls the swinging of a pendulum which takes centuries to swing. After a long period of slumber comes a moment of awakening. -Peter Kropotkin
I have been leaning this way for a while now, and you are responsible for a lot of the education I have already had. You and Glenn Beck made me look into this party and realize I am more in line with it than any other. While I don't agree with everything on the platform, I never will with any party. Right now I don't consider myself any party, but I am leaning. I will just call myself a constitutional conservative, with libertarian tendencies.
AF
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."
Mark Twain
Exactly which authoritarian institutions evolve when the market is left to its own devices? If a government enforces the rule of law, contract law, etc., and the playing field is level for all players, what is there to complain about?
As far as Austrian economics goes, I think it does an excellent job of explaining behavior - the "social" part of the "social science" of economics.
I would agree that free markets are not anarcho-socialist in nature, but then, I would argue that because anarcho-socialism denies the right to property, it denies its subjects the freedom to own and produce as they best see fit.
Liberty is the greatest measure of equality.
Economic Left/Right: 9.38, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51
Sola Scriptura | Soli Deo Gloria | Solo Christo | Sola Gratia | Sola Fide
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well thank you sir for your kind words. Just merely being mentioned with a great thinker like Glenn Beck in the same sentence is an honor. I would recommend you keep an eye for posts by 5StringJeff as he is way more apt to put things in prospective that is retainable than I.
Libertarians are people who care very deeply about the core values of social and economic freedom in America. They are very dedicated people. While as diverse as any group they have continuity that stems from one very basic interest......freedom for ALL Americans. I've met many civil warriors who are tireless in their effort to restore true freedom to our way of life and will never give up no matter what the voting blocks, polls and newspapers say. People I am so proud to be associated with I could never fiond the words to describe.
Keep at it AFBL, you'll get on that no fly list yet brother!
If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!
A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
Samuel Adams
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If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!
A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!
Can I quote you on that, emmie?
You have been discussing me and my attitudes and your intention not to address me for weeks now. What is your problem? Without question even since your horseshit attitude the conversation continues. If you don't want to be a part of it that is only your desicision. Has anyone told you lately that you really suck and you absolutely come across as the liar that you really are?
emmie,,,,,,,,,,,,you are such a freakin' freshman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wut you gonna do now, cowgirl? Neg rep me? That's the general response in these more frank conversations with the idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Psychoblues
The problem is that any change is going to require years of work, because those two bigs parties that have been getting elected in droves have spent all their time and money convincing you and others that they are really the only game in town. Look at it, you only have two things go on in our government: 1. Dem/Rep puts out bill, and then 2. opposing party decries, even if it were something they would have been in favor of 10 years ago.
They're both full of shit, and now, they can't have a 3rd party come in and propose something other than an a or b answer, because then they would have to actually think about what they are doing.
"Government screws up everything. If government says black, you can bet it's white. If government says sit still for your safety, you'd better run for your life!"
--Wayne Allyn Root
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If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!
A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!