Feedback for new header design

[gabosaurus]

Don't like the red on the site now either..

Hey, if the country is going socialist, we might as well have some red in the background.
I hope the remaining blue background will be changed to green in time for Christmas.

[Monkeybone]

Hey, if the country is going socialist, we might as well have some red in the background.
I hope the remaining blue background will be changed to green in time for Christmas.

Gabs might be on to something.


Maybe if Jimmy wasn't so lazy we could have different back grounds all the time, for all holidays.

plz don't ban me!

[jimnyc]

MY EYES!! I'M BLINDED!!!

I love how the new board looks, with the red border. I use Firefox and it looks great.
Kudos to Jim and anyone else involved!

Thanks goes to Eddie. You'd be surprised how many lines of code it takes in Flash to do something that appears to be fairly simple. And not to mention me nagging him to make changes.

Not diggin' the new banner/logo at all... looks sorta cheese...

Don't like the red on the site now either..

While this is feedback, I was looking for more of what people would like to see changed. If your idea is to scrap ALL the changes, get in line with Mr. P. Not sure he's thrilled with change either. But I didn't expect 100% approval rating across the board on any decision I make around here.

Hey, if the country is going socialist, we might as well have some red in the background.
I hope the remaining blue background will be changed to green in time for Christmas.

Gabs might be on to something.

Maybe if Jimmy wasn't so lazy we could have different back grounds all the time, for all holidays.

plz don't ban me!

You might see a few changes here and there. It's really not hard to put up something like a Christmas theme and make it default for a week or so.

[Gaffer]

I like the red.

[-Cp]

While this is feedback, I was looking for more of what people would like to see changed. If your idea is to scrap ALL the changes, get in line with Mr. P. Not sure he's thrilled with change either. But I didn't expect 100% approval rating across the board on any decision I make around here.


You might see a few changes here and there. It's really not hard to put up something like a Christmas theme and make it default for a week or so.

1. Yer buddy might be good with flash, but he's clearly no design expert. The banner looks like it was made using MS Paint and doesn't speak of a quality message board. dmp could easily design a better-looking one and he's not even a "design expert"...

2. The red burns the retinas and adds an unnecessary, harsh contrast to the white background while one tries to read the text on each post.

I realize that you're clearly trying to spice things up a bit to get the board more visually attractive to perspective users, however, I don't think the changes you've implemented thus far add any qualitative value.

[-Cp]

One other thing is that I'm still trying to figure out what the current colors of Red, White and Blue have to do with the name: Debatepolicy ?

If it's branding you want to focus in on Jim, you may want to consider a site name-change that's more reflective of the actual content here.

We hardly debate any policies with forums like:

Food/Wine
Photography
Health
Science
Religion
The Great outdoors
Fix it yourself
Pro Sports
College sports
Movies
Music
Humor

Etc... While each of these forums in and of themselves are certainly fun topics, they don't help add to the "brand" of debate policy as there's very little debating of ANY policies in those forums. In those examples, the name of "debate policy" seems a bit odd.

I also realize that you'll probably take this feedback as a bit harsh, however, my intent is to help pick your brain to think of ideas to do the following:

1. Pick your "brand" (Site identity / Naming)
2. Implement forums and threads that support that "brand"
3. Implement color-schemes / site themes that add value to the "brand" and ultimately to the readers you want to attract.

[jimnyc]

1. Yer buddy might be good with flash, but he's clearly no design expert. The banner looks like it was made using MS Paint and doesn't speak of a quality message board. dmp could easily design a better-looking one and he's not even a "design expert"...

2. The red burns the retinas and adds an unnecessary, harsh contrast to the white background while one tries to read the text on each post.

I realize that you're clearly trying to spice things up a bit to get the board more visually attractive to perspective users, however, I don't think the changes you've implemented thus far add any qualitative value.

One other thing is that I'm still trying to figure out what the current colors of Red, White and Blue have to do with the name: Debatepolicy ?

If it's branding you want to focus in on Jim, you may want to consider a site name-change that's more reflective of the actual content here.

We hardly debate any policies with forums like:

Food/Wine
Photography
Health
Science
Religion
The Great outdoors
Fix it yourself
Pro Sports
College sports
Movies
Music
Humor

Etc... While each of these forums in and of themselves are certainly fun topics, they don't help add to the "brand" of debate policy as there's very little debating of ANY policies in those forums. In those examples, the name of "debate policy" seems a bit odd.

I also realize that you'll probably take this feedback as a bit harsh, however, my intent is to help pick your brain to think of ideas to do the following:

1. Pick your "brand" (Site identity / Naming)
2. Implement forums and threads that support that "brand"
3. Implement color-schemes / site themes that add value to the "brand" and ultimately to the readers you want to attract.

Thanks for your constructive feedback. But we've done quite well the way we are over the years. I'm happy and those that I care about are happy. It's a message board for fun for cripes sake, this isn't a business for me.

And while you may publicly choose to scorn another's work, I have seen what you have done before, and you a far from someone who is in a position to critique others. You've never offered anything towards "design" for this site, never contributed - but are generally the first to complain about things.

I ASKED Eddie to keep it simple, and I ASKED him to do exactly what you see. He did it 100% correctly and cleaner than most others would. He could have done better, but this is what I asked him to do for me. Critique my choices if you like, but to put down another about his skills when you know zilch about him is in poor taste.

[-Cp]

Thanks for your constructive feedback. But we've done quite well the way we are over the years. I'm happy and those that I care about are happy. It's a message board for fun for cripes sake, this isn't a business for me.

And while you may publicly choose to scorn another's work, I have seen what you have done before, and you a far from someone who is in a position to critique others. You've never offered anything towards "design" for this site, never contributed - but are generally the first to complain about things.

I ASKED Eddie to keep it simple, and I ASKED him to do exactly what you see. He did it 100% correctly and cleaner than most others would. He could have done better, but this is what I asked him to do for me. Critique my choices if you like, but to put down another about his skills when you know zilch about him is in poor taste.

Sorry about that - From the way you billed it in the OP I figured that you had the design-work done by him...

Additionally, you couldn't have ever seen "my work" because I don't do design or flash but that doesn't mean I don't know what looks good and what doesn't.

If you go back thru this thread Jim, I was far from the first to complain and I KNEW you'd take it as complaining rather than feedback.

I'm not sure why you ask for feedback and then when someone tries to offer that and more you always come back with these kinds of responses. It's your site, yup and if that's what you wanna do - great, just don't bother to ask for feedback if you're just going to always shoot it down when it's something that doesn't tickle your ears.

[jimnyc]

Sorry about that - From the way you billed it in the OP I figured that you had the design-work done by him...

Additionally, you couldn't have ever seen "my work" because I don't do design or flash but that doesn't mean I don't know what looks good and what doesn't.

If you go back thru this thread Jim, I was far from the first to complain and I KNEW you'd take it as complaining rather than feedback.

I'm not sure why you ask for feedback and then when someone tries to offer that and more you always come back with these kinds of responses. It's your site, yup and if that's what you wanna do - great, just don't bother to ask for feedback if you're just going to always shoot it down when it's something that doesn't tickle your ears.

I wanted feedback about the design I was working with, not to have a friend put down for his hours of effort. And not one person put down Eddie's credentials until you spoke up. Telling me you would prefer an alternate design, or different colors - that would be feedback and what you would like to see going forward. Stating "Your buddy is clearly no design expert" is simply a comment towards someONE and not someTHING.

And I'm sorry, your entire posts didn't come off as feedback to me, which was meant to be about the current design and going forward. It seemed to be more about stating the designer wasn't an expert and I had issues with the way I have the board setup.

Those that have a true and general interest in specifically what they might like to see going forward, please shoot me a PM and I will do my best to work with you.

Again, this is not a business for me. This is a hobby that I am dedicated to. There are varying stages of the board due to trying to please as many members as possible (to an extent at least). If you don't like a forum, don't enter it. If you don't like the site name, PM me and I can show you how to never see it again and watch the name magically appear as numbers for you! If you don't like the board look - scroll all the way to the bottom of the board on the left hand side - there are a few designs for you to choose from. If none of that helps, close your eyes, click your heels 3 times and dream of a better site - because I can't deliver miracles, which in itself would be doing something that would please every single member of the board.

[code_master]

This is Eddie,

First, Jimmy you're waaaay too nice. For a free site you guys are lucky that the host is actually listening your input.
First of a lil about me; I am Rich Internet Application Developer, banners are not my specialty, it is for designers. Plus there is no money in making banner, for those of you that don't know what RIA development is, I make programs so designers can use them to create banners!

I am not a designer, that is why I asked jimmy for the design ideas and in turn he asked you guys. Most of you have been pretty helpful, others have taken advantage of jimmy's nice personality!


@ -Cp
And as far as all your designer input, where are your credentials? are you a designer, developer, programmer, coder or just a poorly informed yet highly opinionated person!

For the rest of you, you are going to notice some major changes on this site in the upcoming weeks....hope you like'em.

Cheerio

[Missileman]

Might I recommend that you swap the images of the constitution and Mt. Rushmore.

[PostmodernProphet]

I'm not a fan of the red....

[jimnyc]

Might I recommend that you swap the images of the constitution and Mt. Rushmore.

As in swap places on the header, or swap them altogether for new images?

I'm not a fan of the red....

Assuming the header stays as is, what would you recommend for the coloring for the borders. I think it would be nice to have the color "match" the header and give the board a "theme".

[Missileman]

As in swap places on the header, or swap them altogether for new images?

Swap places...it will get the lettering out of Abe's and Teddy's face and make the DE standout better

[Mr. P]

What a F'kin soap opera!

BTW... still loading on the left for me...and I'm NOT and WILL NOT be updating anything..it worked fine before. It also seems to be having an affect on my puter memory...odd that, but I lose connections with remote puters now and that never happened before the change.

As far as CP getting in line with me..WTF?...you ask for feedback on change an I gave it! If ya don't want it don't ask.