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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    So just cus you are not able to domesticate a Pig it is fine to murder them, what delightful logic =/
    You can kill animals (for whatever reason), you can skin them for their pelts, you can cook em up and eat them, you can shoot the little ones for target practice so you don't miss the big ones, but no matter what you do to them you cannot murder them. They're just animals.

    I've had a dog that played hide & seek with me, he brushed himself by putting the brush on the floor and pushing himself over it, I had another dog that I would say committed suicide because he lost a fight and it so demoralized him that he went and laid down till he died but they were just animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crin63 View Post
    You can kill animals (for whatever reason), you can skin them for their pelts, you can cook em up and eat them, you can shoot the little ones for target practice so you don't miss the big ones, but no matter what you do to them you cannot murder them. They're just animals.
    Indeedy you can not legaly murder them, but as i'm sure your know all to well, legality and morality are not one and the same, so a legal murder? No. A moral murder? Yes.

    I've had a dog that played hide & seek with me, he brushed himself by putting the brush on the floor and pushing himself over it, I had another dog that I would say committed suicide because he lost a fight and it so demoralized him that he went and laid down till he died but they were just animals.
    They were just animals, but you would have not decided to play hide and seek with your dog one day and when you find him proceed to cut his throat for no reason, or shoot him for target practice. Does it ever occur to you if your out shooting birds or whatever that it may have chicks waiting for it back at its nest? and given that do you think its right to condemn those chicks to starve to death because you felt like shooting something?
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Indeedy you can not legaly murder them, but as i'm sure your know all to well, legality and morality are not one and the same, so a legal murder? No. A moral murder? Yes.



    They were just animals, but you would have not decided to play hide and seek with your dog one day and when you find him proceed to cut his throat for no reason, or shoot him for target practice. Does it ever occur to you if your out shooting birds or whatever that it may have chicks waiting for it back at its nest? and given that do you think its right to condemn those chicks to starve to death because you felt like shooting something?
    Does conservation occur to you? Our hunting seasons take into account the breeding seasons, total population and available food sources. We maintain wildlife populations through responsible harvesting practices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Does conservation occur to you? Our hunting seasons take into account the breeding seasons, total population and available food sources. We maintain wildlife populations through responsible harvesting practices.
    Nature has a way of looking after itself. It did so for all the years before guns were around and any tom, dick or harry would go slaughtering at a whim.

    I see you didn't answer the question aswell, rather you chose to attack,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Nature has a way of looking after itself. It did so for all the years before guns were around and any tom, dick or harry would go slaughtering at a whim.

    I see you didn't answer the question aswell, rather you chose to attack,
    There was no attack.

    So, you'd rather see wildlife die of starvation an disease? Is that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    There was no attack.

    So, you'd rather see wildlife die of starvation an disease? Is that right?
    I would rather let nature take its corse, it one type of bird or another is doomed to die out then that is natures way, and we should not be messing with that.

    This is ofcourse a different issue to the production of meat, which is an even worse evil still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    I would rather let nature take its corse, it one type of bird or another is doomed to die out then that is natures way, and we should not be messing with that.

    This is ofcourse a different issue to the production of meat, which is an even worse evil still.
    Well it may surprise you, Noir. But here in the USA..hunters and fishermen strive to maintain the population of ALL the wildlife.
    They are "true" conservationist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Indeedy you can not legaly murder them, but as i'm sure your know all to well, legality and morality are not one and the same, so a legal murder? No. A moral murder? Yes.



    They were just animals, but you would have not decided to play hide and seek with your dog one day and when you find him proceed to cut his throat for no reason, or shoot him for target practice. Does it ever occur to you if your out shooting birds or whatever that it may have chicks waiting for it back at its nest? and given that do you think its right to condemn those chicks to starve to death because you felt like shooting something?
    What do you want me to say, " I don't care"? Okay, I Don't Care! It will be a quick clean kill.
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