d'uh....I would have assumed my meaning was obvious from the git-go.....Originally Posted by Noir
Was that you assume because i do not believe in a creator that i must see less beauty
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d'uh....I would have assumed my meaning was obvious from the git-go.....Was that you assume because i do not believe in a creator that i must see less beauty
...full immersion.....
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Matthew 10:42And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he will certainly not lose his reward."
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But not only did you make an assumption for yourself, you then lied by saying "you specifically said you saw less than I did, so how can it be wrong to say I saw more?....."
Its bad enough to make an assumption about what someone said, but to then go on and claim they said your assumption is pretty pathetic IMO, and distorts debate.
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???....but that is obviously a plus factor, not a minus......I see and appreciate the beauty that everyone else sees.....
Query: which would be worse, an ugly woman filled with the love of God or an ugly woman filled with spite and anger.....May i ask if you also do the same with not so nice things as beauty and love? But say with Ugliness and hatred?
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????....that isn't a lie.....you did say you saw less than I did.....you don't see the hand of God in creation......what is not "less" about that......I didn't "assume" anything about what you said.....it was obvious in your statement.....
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Plant Parenthood.
This is pure tosh.
It is hotly debated whether Spinoza's God is panentheist, pantheist, or atheist. But by reading through Einstein's works, which i assume you have not done, it is clear to see that he uses the word 'God' to mean Nature. It is to the eternal annoyance of Atheists that scientists use the word 'God' on this poetic way, because it is certain that once they are dead then the religious will twist these words on them.
Even Steven Hawkings, who is no doubt an atheist still uses the word 'God' as Einstein did, and i bet you in 30 years time i'm having a debate with some idiot who will use a Hawking God quote =/
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Plant Parenthood.
I was not raised by atheists. My Dad is Agnostic and my mum is a Christian.
And how dare you imply that 'education' is some sort or requirement to being religious and thus those that are not are stupid or intellectually inferior.
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Plant Parenthood.
This is clearly going nowhere, if you can not see something for its own beauty but the fact that something created it, fair enough. I find that pretty sad myself, but such is life.
Query: which would be worse, an ugly woman filled with the love of God or an ugly woman filled with spite and anger.....[/QUOTE]
Who's to say an Ugly women filled with the love of god is not also filled with spite and anger? It all depends on how you define god.
Also can you answer my question directly rather than asking another question in reply, if you see a creator in beauty and love, Do you also see the same creator in ugliness and hatred?
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Marine turned Soldier
...If you answer... ...a question with a question... ...you don't have to answer the question...
POLITICAL ACTIVISTS CREED
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brushfires in people's minds" -Samuel Adams
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men
stand ready to do violence on their behalf."~George Orwell
Plant Parenthood.
It is a lie, i did not say i saw less than you did, I appreciate the beauty of something based on its beauty. Thus you assume, from your prespective that i must "see less" if you really want to think that then fine, but don't start posting it and saying that i said it, when i didn't, that is truly dishonest.
You inferred something from a statement that i did not imply, that is called assuming, you have since gone on to twice claim its 'obvious' to try and justify your assumption, but i will have none of it.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Plant Parenthood.
LOL, i see the irony in what i said....If you answer... ...a question with a question... ...you don't have to answer the question...
However, PMPs question supposes that we must assume that the God women is not filled with spite and anger, this is an assumption that i would rather not make, and so will only answer with a question.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Marine turned Soldier
Everyone is filled with happiness and anger. It is up to you which you will allow to control your life. There is no god that controls it or puts it inside you.
SIDEBAR* Noir, I think you are more of an Agnostic like myself than you are an Atheist. Ever given it any thought?
POLITICAL ACTIVISTS CREED
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brushfires in people's minds" -Samuel Adams
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men
stand ready to do violence on their behalf."~George Orwell
Plant Parenthood.
Why would you think I'm more Agnostic? I do not believe in any Gods, or that there is anything that can not be explained through science.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
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You're a disappointment to your mum, why do you hate her?
Sorry bud but you are in need of an education. That's actually a compliment because atheists either need an education or else are too dumb to be taught.
Plant Parenthood.
Well she hides her disappointment well, and i don't, i love her lots and lots
lol, well i just i'm just too dumb to be taught, such is life.
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