“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
Thing is, it's not facts. It's fundie Christians who are trying to make science look like creationism. There are barely any facts involved. Just personal opinions. Nothing wrong with that either, but call it was it is, not what you would like it to be. Their idea of evidence falls well short of peer reviewed theories, let alone thesises. Hell, Senior's link to Sartari's piece was bordering on idiocy. They guy gave us footnotes/citations to where he got his info. One such citation was to one of his own books. How bizarre is that?
Going at the facts of the matter, the radioactive isotope Uranium-235 has a very large, constant half life of about 700 million years. A half life is the amount of time an atom takes to decay. Using the method of radioisotope dating, we can test the rocks that dinosaur bones were found in to see the approximate date that they were buried there by finding uranium-235 molecules and seeing at what point of decay they are at.
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/sub...sildating.html
This is by no means an exact science as all science is subject to new evidence and new methods. Until other methods are found to disprove this sound theory, i'm going to trust these methods.
I feel that the human race is very young. If i had to guess, i'd say humans are roughly 9000 to 10000 years old. Thats homo-sapien not neanderthal, cromagden or the other human like races around that time. So i understand the creationist view of existence begining when humans began. Its a completely arogant view of the universe. Its also akin to believing the Earth is the center of the universe and that everything revolves around it. A basic theory of early man but it was disproven once better theories and evidence were presented.
Creationism is fine for religion and beliefs. ITs a good story and it gets people interested in the religion. It is not provable though. Not that any science is but Creationism has no basic theories based in the current laws of physics we grasp. To follow the views as absolute truth is a "leap of faith." Ultimately, thats what they are selling.
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” – Winston Churchill
"Your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them." - Obiwan Kenobi
What scientific rebutal is there to make if you believe there weren't any dinosaurs and the world is only a few thousand years old, and all the species in the world were on Noah's ark. There's a lot more real scientific facts out there than what is on that genesis site. That's a bunch of fundimentalist trying to make a case for something that doesn't exist. ie: That the world is younger than has been proven and man has only been around 6000 years or so.
I'm always open minded to things that differ from my point of view. But I want them backed up by actual facts and the stuff I read in that site I have read before and its pseudo-science masquerading as real science. It ranks right up there with the "scientists" and "engineers" that claim the world trade center was taken down by preplaced explosives.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
A few things, namely, 'evolution' doesn't make sense. It's not scientific - or if it IS, it's much more speculation than anything else. Creationism 'makes sense' - it's logical and IMO, there exists MUCH more 'proof' of Intelligent Design than the 'Random dumb luck' Evolutionists preach.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
If there were more evidence to support Christian creationism than there is in support of evolution, then science would abandon evolution and go with creationism. That's the difference between real scientists and the snake-oil salesmen who tout creation. A real scientist doesn't ignore evidence even if it hurts his theory. Real scientists are willing to modify their beliefs when confronted with new or contradictory evidence. Any statements that there is a preponderance of evidence in support of creation are pure fiction.
Evolution has some evidence to prove that its possible. IT doesnt make it true. It just makes it possible. Creationism doesn't have any evidence that its more then just a good story.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” – Winston Churchill
"Your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them." - Obiwan Kenobi
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
You may want to read this (not that you will) but..... The Isotope system is highly debatable....
http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...adioactive.asp