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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    Bully's inference that all murderers are terrorists, while a bit of a stretch depending on how you define "terrorist" is plausible. His inference that all domestic terrorists are right wingers is pure bullshit.
    How do you figure? Roeder acted from extremist ideological motives in pursuit of a political agenda. The very definition or terrorism

    <blockquote><b>Main Entry:</b> ter·ror
    <b>Pronunciation:</b> \ˈter-ər, ˈte-rər\
    <b>Function:</b> noun

    <b>4 :</b> violent or destructive acts (as bombing<i> or murder</i>) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands - Merriam-Websters On-Line Dictionary</blockquote>

    Not all right wingers are terrorists. Only those that engage inviolence to further their political agenda...be it right or left.

    As for Bill Ayers...He and his left wing fellow travelers committed acts of terrorism in the 60's and 70's. The only reason they weren't convicted for those acts was the FBI's violation of federal law and the Fourth Amendment in their surveillance of the Weather Underground. The case was thrown out on that basis and they pled to lesser crimes. Their actions also met the definition of terrorism, but they never killed anyone as members of the radical anti-abortion movement have.

    If you want to play apologist for the radical anti-abortionists, and the acts of terror they have inspired, that's your choice. But it makes you no better than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    As for Bill Ayers...He and his left wing fellow travelers committed acts of terrorism in the 60's and 70's. The only reason they weren't convicted for those acts was the FBI's violation of federal law and the Fourth Amendment in their surveillance of the Weather Underground. The case was thrown out on that basis and they pled to lesser crimes. Their actions also met the definition of terrorism, but they never killed anyone as members of the radical anti-abortion movement have.

    If you want to play apologist for the radical anti-abortionists, and the acts of terror they have inspired, that's your choice. But it makes you no better than them.
    Waitwhat? You think I'm playing apologist? You fool. I am saying that all terrorist scum are terrorist scum.

    You seem to be the one saying that some terrorists are not as bad as others.

    Tis a tad hypocritical, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Waitwhat? You think I'm playing apologist? You fool. I am saying that all terrorist scum are terrorist scum.

    You seem to be the one saying that some terrorists are not as bad as others.

    Tis a tad hypocritical, no?
    Sorry 'bout that lad. Didn't mean to give you that impression. Firstly, the apologists are those who can cheerfully condone the acts of Scott Roeder. Thus they are no better than him, or his fellow travelers.

    Secondly, the use of violence,...or its threat...to intimidate citizenry or governments to adhere to a particular agenda is nothing more than an indefensible act of moral cowardice by cannot make a moral argument for their cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Sorry 'bout that lad. Didn't mean to give you that impression. Firstly, the apologists are those who can cheerfully condone the acts of Scott Roeder. Thus they are no better than him, or his fellow travelers.

    Secondly, the use of violence,...or its threat...to intimidate citizenry or governments to adhere to a particular agenda is nothing more than an indefensible act of moral cowardice by cannot make a moral argument for their cause.
    for crying out loud, get off your moral high horse Bully. NO one here or anyone I know would "condone" what this idiot did.

    you are sounding more like a Progressive shrill parrot each and every day. Demanding we apologize or condemn things we had nothing to do with, and now labeling any American citizen who doesn't fall into what your ideas or your Progressive party are, as terrorist.

    now go take a
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Yesterday, a terrorist was sentenced to life in prison...with no chance of parole for 50 years. Given the terrorist's age, he will die in prison. The terrorist was not an Arab, nor even a Muslim. He was Scott Roeder, murderer of Dr. George Tiller. At his sentencing, he was unrepentant and even defiant.

    His past was also checkered, and even relevant to today's resurgence of right wing violence. In the 1990's he was a member of the "Montana Freemen", an anti-government group...a militia. He was arrested after being stopped for a license violation when bomb-making supplies were found in the trunk of his car.

    No matter how you slice it, Scott Roeder's murder of George Tiller was an act of domestic terrorism. And those who condone and support the actions of those like Roeder, who take violent action in the pursuit of political goals, are terrorists as well.
    Scott Roeder is no less than a terrorist. The fact that some here refuse to see that is frightening. Even more so than Scott Roeder intended.

    I am an American and I refuse to allow trash like Roeder to significantly interrupt my life.



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    domestic terrorists are a bit threat to us
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