9th Circus Court of Appeals bans Calif same-sex marriage pending appeal

[Little-Acorn]

Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional acorn.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100816/...marriage_trial

Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

by Lisa Leff, Associated Press Writer – 17 mins ago

SAN FRANCISCO – A federal appeals court put same-sex weddings in California on hold indefinitely Monday while it considers the constitutionality of the state's gay marriage ban.

The decision, issued by a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, trumps a lower court judge's order that would have allowed county clerks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples on Wednesday.

Chief U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker decided last week to allow gay marriages to go forward after ruling that the ban, known as Proposition 8, violated equal protection and due process rights of gays and lesbians guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution.

The Proposition 8 legal team quickly appealed Walker's ruling in a case that many believe will end up before the Supreme Court.

Lawyers for two same-sex couples had joined with California Attorney General Jerry Brown in urging the appeals court to allow the weddings, arguing that keeping the ban in place any longer would harm the civil rights of gays and lesbians.

The plaintiffs could now appeal the 9th Circuit decision to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, who handles emergency motions for the high court

Walker presided over a 13-day trial earlier this year that was the first in federal court to examine if states can prohibit gays from getting married without violating the constitutional guarantee of equality.

Supporters argued the ban was necessary to safeguard the traditional understanding of marriage and to encourage responsible childbearing.

Opponents said that tradition or fears of harm to heterosexual unions were legally insufficient grounds to discriminate against gay couples.

Currently, same-sex couples can legally wed only in Massachusetts, Iowa, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire and Washington, D.C.

[LiberalNation]

That really sucks.

Hopefully the appeal will go in our favor tho. The pro prop 8 peoples argument is retarded.

Marriage isn't about procreation seein as you don't have to be able to procreate to get married even if you're straight.

[Little-Acorn]

That really sucks.

Hopefully the appeal will go in our favor tho. The pro prop 8 peoples argument is retarded.

Marriage isn't about procreation seein as you don't have to be able to procreate to get married even if you're straight.

Hopefully that takes care of the namecalling and misspelling wing, and we can get on to coherent debate.

The issue is, of course, catering to the feelings and desires of homosexuals at a cost of ignoring and disallowing the feelings and desires of heterosexuals.

The natural dislike of homosexual relations felt by heterosexuals, comes from the same emotional base as the natural attraction of the members of one sex for members of another. The constant attempts by homosexual advocates to force heteros to suppress and disavow their own natural emotions, while insisting that homosexuals must be allowed to express and revel in theirs, is one of the clearer cases of hypocrisy that has come down the pike in a while.

You can pass all the laws to sweep back the tide that you want. But it won't do much to change the tide.

I wonder if the 9th Circus actually noticed this, and decided to halt sweeping for a while.

[MtnBiker]

damn homophobes

[Little-Acorn]

damn homophobes

"Homophobe": (n) A term invented by homosexual advocates in an attempt to pretend that normal people have some kind of fear of homosexuals, since the advocates can find no other points they can refute in the people's arguments and must resort to calling names instead.

[Noir]

Seems logical enough. No point in having 2/3 months of legal marriages to then have the door shut, and the wondering about the legity of those who did get married ect.

One thing I did hear is that the court wants to speed up the date to bear the apeal, and so has brought it forward to December.

[Silver]

That really sucks. Well, you're the expert

Hopefully the appeal will go in our favor tho. The pro prop 8 peoples argument is retarded.

Marriage isn't about procreation seein as you don't have to be able to procreate to get married even if you're straight.

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[DragonStryk72]

Hopefully that takes care of the namecalling and misspelling wing, and we can get on to coherent debate.

The issue is, of course, catering to the feelings and desires of homosexuals at a cost of ignoring and disallowing the feelings and desires of heterosexuals.

The natural dislike of homosexual relations felt by heterosexuals, comes from the same emotional base as the natural attraction of the members of one sex for members of another. The constant attempts by homosexual advocates to force heteros to suppress and disavow their own natural emotions, while insisting that homosexuals must be allowed to express and revel in theirs, is one of the clearer cases of hypocrisy that has come down the pike in a while.

You can pass all the laws to sweep back the tide that you want. But it won't do much to change the tide.

I wonder if the 9th Circus actually noticed this, and decided to halt sweeping for a while.

Are heterosexuals in any way effected by gay marriage? No, except for the touchy ones who are just flatly oversensitive. So they don't get a decision, frankly, as their rights are in no way impinged by gay marriage.

There is no attempt to "force heteros to suppress and disavow their own natural emotions", because they don't care about you, they just want to marry the person they're in love with. the only way that gay marriage effects you is if you allow it to do so, or are gay. That's it, everyone else is just jumping in on an argument they have no business in, really.

"while insisting that homosexuals must be allowed to express and revel in theirs" is also patently false. Yes, some people flaunt their homosexuality, in the same way that I have straight guy friends that flaunt their Guy-ness. then there are the men who are convinced they can talk you off of marriage period, with just one drunken weekend. They're called attention whores (or egotistical pricks, depending), but that has nothing to do with sexuality, really, but egotism. There are always going to be those who flaunt what they are, and anyone doing so is doing it, at least in part, for the attention it brings them.

The hypocrisy is in telling homosexuals or heterosexuals that their marriage is somehow either "right" or "wrong", because it is all based upon horribly biased, subjective opinions. You know what would happen if they allowed gay marriage? There'd be a few weeks of news reports on it, and then... nothing. you'd hear about it just as often as heterosexual marriage. Everything would simply go back to normal, and that would be that.

[DragonStryk72]

That really sucks.

Hopefully the appeal will go in our favor tho. The pro prop 8 peoples argument is retarded.

Marriage isn't about procreation seein as you don't have to be able to procreate to get married even if you're straight.

And seriously, LN? Stop helping. You are actually the MVP for those arguing against gay marriage. If you aren't going to bother speaking up intelligently, then don't bother speaking up.

[LiberalNation]

And seriously, LN? Stop helping. You are actually the MVP for those arguing against gay marriage. If you aren't going to bother speaking up intelligently, then don't bother speaking up.

why is that?

and I thought my post was fine. This was a shit ruling and the arguments against gay marriage are shit.

[Insein]

The obvious answer to this is to overhaul the entrie tax system. Make it an understandable tax without complicated deductions and hidden taxes so that we all pay what we truly owe. Then marriage will be defined by the church you go to. Beneficiaries can be made legal in any state through the proper paperwork so that is a moot point.