The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
Damn dude, you're advocating torture by having people read your absolute stupidity in both this thread and the one where NT shredded you about the mercenaries. I know it's just 2 threads and you're too stupid to multitask, but it's still torture to those of us reading through your crap.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Here you go, pagan, you wanted so desperately to know WHO was going to define WHO is a terrorist.
The dictionary! Merriam Webster is our new authority. No need to listen to Geneva or any other UN conventions!!!
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...1&t=1291146669
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Dumbass is arguing with NT in another thread as to how a mercenary is qualified. NT provided classification and protocol from the geneva convention. Pagan used, um, the dictionary. And continues on that he is correct. Even states:
So I guess we shouldn't use them as any type of authority on terrorists or torture either.So you hold the Geneva Convention as the defining authority on Military terms and actions?
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Evade, lie then evade again
Ho Hummmmmmmm
For the record my "so what you mean" was trying to clarify your position which you continually evade, maybe that's why there where question marks on them.
You know if you would provide a strait answer I wouldn't have to ask, by the way those "so what you're saying" and "so what you mean" I quoted your posts.
So come on slick stop playing games, provide the link where claim -
Hint, it doesn't exist.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
Look, dumbass, YOU made statements that I DID NOT make by first stating "So what you're saying is..." - which is a shit tactic to use when debating, to just outright make something up that your opponent never said - even if you were "only to trying to clarify my position" which was total horseshit. I came back at you and did the same to you in return, but a little harsher. And it appears you don't like having words put in your mouth and now you want to make demands.
Tough shit. Debate honestly and don't do shit to other people that you don't want coming back to bite you in the ass.
Either way, thread has turned into a shitfest by the both of us and no use in leaving open. I'm not going to play "flame tag" with you.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Locked the thread but re-opened as some can likely have a good discussion in here. I'll no longer respond to Pagan to allow you guys to continue. I was going to separate all the shit posts and split to a new thread but it was just too much work.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Abso, once again you first denied it happened, then move the goal post to 'it doesn't happen daily', as if I ever said such a thing.
The you quibble on definition of adult, ignoring the use of stroller bombs, but heh, what's the deal as long as not daily, right? Oh no, you condemn any, BUT then go onto ask me why? some would do this. That brings you back to education in the religion.
So? I guess I was right.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
i didnt deny that it happen, what i meant that its not a policy to make it happen, and discussing the adult age is the core of the subject, because if you see 16 as minor while they say its adult, what makes you right and them wrong, is it your law that should apply to them !!!
People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.
Age isn't the issue. It's respecting the youth, not training them to be martyrs because they are young and impressionable. Actually it's just evidence of a people who value their medieval beliefs more than their future.
As you said at one point, doesn't matter if the bomber is 30 or 40, though you have more in the 20-30 category. It's the belief system that is warped.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
i know that the belief system is stupid, and perverted in a stupid way, but that doesnt have anything with using minors in war, as they didnt use kids under 16 years old which is the adult age in their belief.
if the debate is about using minors, then i would say that they dont in their belief, just in your law not in theirs.
but if its about the moral gounds of using 16 - 20 years old in suicide bombings, i wouldnt agree with that, and i would denounce it.
People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.
If I take your teens and explain they have no hope in the future. That god wants them to save others in their country, but it's their personal lot to join god sooner, than later, as a martyr. Doesn't matter if the person is 15, 18, or 26 when activated, the abuse was done at their most impressionable:
Your quote:
While excuses made on basis of 'humiliation' the truth is still the truth. Abuse, systematized by leaders, be they religious, political, or social.According to emeritus professor of psychiatry at the University of Virginia School of Medicine Vamik Volkan,
Most suicide bombers in the Middle East are chosen as teenagers, “educated,” and then sent off to perform their duty when they are in their late teens or early to mid-twenties. The "education" is most effective when religious elements of the large-group identity are provided as solutions for the personal sense of helplessness, shame, and humiliation. Replacing borrowed elements sanctioned by God for one’s internal world makes that person omnipotent and supports the individual’s narcissism. I found that there was little difficulty in finding young men interested in becoming suicide bombers in Gaza and the West Bank. Repeated actual and expected events humiliate youngsters and interfere with their adaptive identifications with their parents because their parents are humiliated as well.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
i agree with you, but my point still stands, that what you said have nothing to do with using minors, we are just talking about how to convert someone into a suicide bomber.
so i am not arguing at all that convincing teens is right, its wrong, but they are not minors or kids.
People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.