I now have to devour this big block of text and reply abnormally because abso is too dumb to use the multi-quote function.
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Do you "personally" know an average Joe "resistance" fighter in Iraq? But yet you claim they are there.
nope, i dont know personally, thats my point, that i never said that there is actual legal resistence, just said that if there are, i would support it, i said that i support legal resistence, so logically, if it doesnt exist, then no problem, nothing gets my support, but if it exists, then they have my support, but i have never said that they do or do not exist, have i ?
No, you didn't say IF, you clearly just wrote that you supported the attacks against American troops. Why would you even mention this if you weren't sure if "legal resistance" existed? I've never seen as much tap dancing as I just saw in the blue pile of shit above.
Not here in the States... But only one of my muslim friends is married. He has 3 little girls and a wife. I've seen them tens of times but really never saw them. He makes them wear their veils and they ALWAYS walk behind him. That's as far as he'll get here, as in the US we will charge him with a crime and prosecute him if he goes any further. Many Islamic countries won't do jack shit if a man beats his wife.
in my country, if a man beats his wife, he get arrested, the same if a women hits her husband , about walking behind him, nothing at all in Islam says anything about walking infront or behind the man, not religious tradition at all, for me, my children will walk in front of me, so that i always watch over them, to make sure they are save, dont like anyone walking behind me, not my wife, not my kids.
That's fine, but acknowledge that this shit exists in MANY islamic countries.
Do you read newspapers? Are you going to deny that the abuse of muslim women in quite a few countries is a huge issue and needs to be fixed?
did i ever deny so ?, i just said that Quran doesnt call for such abuse, but i didnt say that stupid Afghani people or pakistani does not abuse their women.
I disagree, as do the muslims who translated the hadith and quran verses.
i am not here to defend stupid muslims who abuse their wifes, or stupid terrorists who attack innocents, i am just here to defend Quran and Islam, i dont like Islam to be called religion of hatred, while i am a muslim, and i have no hatred at all in me, thats all.
And I mention about the abuse of women in islam, and all you do is deny it exists in egypt and refuse to acknowledge its a huge fucking problem in so many other islamic shitholes.
And yes, I know we have women abusers here in the States too, but if found out about we will prosecute them and send them to jail.
when found in egypt, they are thrown in jail too.
Domestic violence tops a long list of discrimination and abuse against women in Egypt. Other crimes include killing, sexual violence, female genital mutilation (FGM), sexual harassment and human trafficking, as well as poverty and inequality.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2010/986/eg13.htm
Not my fault you failed to address what you promised to. Go back through your own posts and find them. But I don't need you to "translate" anything, I've already had it done so by someone from Algeria, Morocco, Jordan... I don't need you to try and clean it up a bit when I already had close friends translate it for me.
and not mine too, every person can forget, we are not perfect creatures, if you are satisfied with what was explained to you, then its fine, i am not here to force people to ask me about explainations which will make me spend some hours in reading to make such explainations.
Don't want nor need your translations. It's a moot point anyway. You'll just deny that these men beat their women as a result of religion. Whatever their reason, Islamic countries have a serious issue on their hands and the problem is that they don't even acknowledge it exists!
yes, i will deny that its a result of religion, its result of their wrong upbringing, and their parents not teaching them good manners, and the family problems they had while kids.
Why is it that there are SO MANY people in islam that have poor upbringings and end up abusing women?
Then don't tell people you are specifically going to see an imam about verses and then make it sound like it's MY fault because you forgot.
i have already consulted Imams many times when i wanted to explain some verses, and i didnt make it sound like its your fault because i forgot, i apologized and asked if you can excuse me for that fault.
any way you slice it or dice it - women are treated totally different in "most" islamic countries than any other countries. This is backed up with undeniable facts.
maybe, but you dont have to be aggressive towards me because of things that other people does, do you think that is fair ?
I'm just pointing out the facts, if you don't like them, tough shit. You probably don't like what I have to say, no more than me reading that you support cockroaches attacking our troops.
Hell, just show me ONE civilized country outside of Islamic countries, that will kill women for blasphemy, or cane them because they don't have their veils on, or whip them because they had their picture taken, or imprison them for lengthy years because they were seen with a man... disgusting.
kill women for blasphemy - Pakistan
cane them because they dont have their veils on - Iran
whip them because they had their picture taken - Iran
imrpison them for seen with a man - maybe also Iran.
notice anything ?, such actions happens only in radical countries, but you fail to admit that there are many moderate muslim countries that shouldnt be condemned for something that Iran or Pakistan did.
Please, you OUTRIGHT LIE! I have stated MANY times that I know it's not ALL muslims and I am even on record here as stating several times that I believed YOU didn't beat/abuse women. But it's YOU who fails to acknowledge the islam is loaded with fucking terrorists and men who abuse their women. If you don't want to acknowledge it and hopefully help fix it, no sweat off my back.
Now please, ask someone if necessary how to use the multiquote function, I am not replying in this retarded manner again.