Requirements for marriage

[Noir]

you forgot "must be in the same species" and "both parties must be of age"

Trufax.

(which then puts gay people marrying in the same box as people marrying other species or profuse people not of age)

[Gaffer]

Trufax.

(which then puts gay people marrying in the same box as people marrying other species or profuse people not of age)

yep

[Noir]

yep

Mkay, let's play a game, anyone can join in.

Your Son comes to your house one day, say, 25 years old, and says 'Mum, Dad, I a) am gay b) am a pedophile c) have sex with animals.
Which of the three options would you rather. Or are they all the same in your eyes?

[Gaffer]

Mkay, let's play a game, anyone can join in.

Your Son comes to your house one day, say, 25 years old, and says 'Mum, Dad, I a) am gay b) am a pedophile c) have sex with animals.
Which of the three options would you rather. Or are they all the same in your eyes?

They are all the same in my eyes.

Game over.

[Noir]

They are all the same in my eyes.

Game over.

Oh, well, wow, it takes a real twisted mind to be able to twist that together, but whatever ticks your clock.

[Gaffer]

Oh, well, wow, it takes a real twisted mind to be able to twist that together, but whatever ticks your clock.

Nothing twisted in my mind. They are all unnatural acts. The twisted ones are those that allow such acts and condone them. I have no religious convictions so don't bother going there.

[Noir]

Nothing twisted in my mind. They are all unnatural acts. The twisted ones are those that allow such acts and condone them. I have no religious convictions so don't bother going there.

Oh, unnatural acts?
Can you please define a natural act, because, tbh if you are going to have nature as your guideline then youd believe that once girls start releasing eggs they are ready for sex, as nature has decided they are.

In which case what is wrong with the 'natral act' of a 25 year old having sex with a egg releasing 12 year old?

[jimnyc]

Mkay, let's play a game, anyone can join in.

Your Son comes to your house one day, say, 25 years old, and says 'Mum, Dad, I a) am gay b) am a pedophile c) have sex with animals.
Which of the three options would you rather. Or are they all the same in your eyes?

If it were my son?

a) - I would be more than happy to pay for the intensive psychiatric therapy he needs. (My son is now 10, and we have already discussed the issue and HE stated to me that it is wrong and HE cannot understand why people are like that)

b) - If I had evidence of him being a pedophile I would call the cops, have him arrested for his crimes & then help him get the appropriate help after he pays his debt to society.

c) - If I had evidence of him having sex with animals, he would be "persona non grata" with me until that sick act was out of his life and he has somehow repented for his actions.

Which would I "rather"? NONE! As a parent, we would see them all as a sickness, be disheartened that our son was sick, but be realistic and get him the appropriate help.

[Noir]

If it were my son?

a) - I would be more than happy to pay for the intensive psychiatric therapy he needs. (My son is now 10, and we have already discussed the issue and HE stated to me that it is wrong and HE cannot understand why people are like that)

b) - If I had evidence of him being a pedophile I would call the cops, have him arrested for his crimes & then help him get the appropriate help after he pays his debt to society.

c) - If I had evidence of him having sex with animals, he would be "persona non grata" with me until that sick act was out of his life and he has somehow repented for his actions.

Which would I "rather"? NONE! As a parent, we would see them all as a sickness, be disheartened that our son was sick, but be realistic and get him the appropriate help.

You also believe it's behavioral rather than biological I guess,

If I can ask, would there be any heterosexual acts youd pay for your son to be corrected from? Like, say he had a foot fetish, or get couldn't get off unless his patner was dressed as a furry? Or some other such oddity?

[jimnyc]

You also believe it's behavioral rather than biological I guess,

If I can ask, would there be any heterosexual acts youd pay for your son to be corrected from? Like, say he had a foot fetish, or get couldn't get off unless his patner was dressed as a furry? Or some other such oddity?

Well, first off, lets take the pedophilia and sex with animals off the table - as both of those are illegal acts in the US. No parent should condone/support illegal actions from their children.

I believe homosexuality is a sickness, and a learned sickness through behavior and/or environment. Not for a split second do I believe queers are born that way. My belief is that's an excuse to make them feel better about their decisions.

If my son had a "sexual dysfunction", of course I would help him pay to seek therapy or whatever it was that could help with his dysfunction. But his dysfunction would neither be illegal or a "sickness" that would REQUIRE intensive therapy.

BTW - You say I "think" its behavioral and not biological... I'm confident that with the thousands and thousands and thousands of doctors and scientists in the world, they would have found SOME evidence that homosexuality was biological. I find it odd that NOTHING has ever been found to support that argument.

[jimnyc]

(not directed specifically at you, Noir!)

Why is it that those in support of homosexuality tend to disappear from threads that bring up the topic of "born that way" or "biological" when you ask for scientific or medical evidence? While Noir has brought that up here, there is a long history of similar on this board and many others I belong to.

Almost every other "condition" I can think of that people claim to be "born with" is backed up scientifically, 'cept for queerism.